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Doughty family Broseley/Bridgnorth
« on: Wednesday 26 October 22 17:23 BST (UK) »
Hello,

My Great x 3 Grandmother was Anne Doughty (C.1808 - don't have actual year of birth), who married John MacDonald (My Great x 3 GF). After he died in 1846, Anne married Richard TE Corfield, a publican, in Oakengates, Shrops. Anne's father was John Doughty, a barge owner. And I think Anne's mother was Hannah Dunn, who died around 1835.

Does anyone here have a connection to the Doughty's of Broseley/Bridgnorth area? There were a lot of them in that part of Shrops, which makes the research trickier. And a number of them were barge owners. Checking to see if anyone has the complete family tree put together for them?

Grateful for any pointers.

Thanks,
Andy.

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Re: Doughty family Broseley/Bridgnorth
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 27 October 22 04:12 BST (UK) »
Possible burial for John Doughty 12 January 1841 at Bridgnorth age 62

Possible 2nd marriage to Eliza Barratt 15 December 1835 by license.

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They had a daughter Eliza bap. 26 October 1837 at Bridgnorth

After John died  Eliza married John Smithyman Reece 26 April 1846 from this marriage she names her father as George Barrett.

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Re: Doughty family Broseley/Bridgnorth
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 27 October 22 12:07 BST (UK) »
Yes, I have the will for John Doughty who died early 1841. Have to be careful with this family as he wasn't the only John Doughty who was a barge owner. Yes, he got married to Eliza Barrett (not my bloodline), 2nd marriage for him. His first wife Hannah Dunn was my great x 4 grandmother. I don't have a date or place of birth for her.

Still trying to nail the correct year of birth for Elizabeth Doughty c.1808 if possible.

Just trying to make sure everything is 100% certain before adding it to my tree, rather than just accepting the hints on Ancestry, which are often for the wrong person.

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Re: Doughty family Broseley/Bridgnorth
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 27 October 22 13:22 BST (UK) »
Hi
Baptisms at Broseley
Ann 28 Feb 1808 d of John and Hannah Doughty
Sarah 10.3.1813 ditto waterman Salttown
Rosanna 7 Sep 1817 ditto waterman

Hannah buried Bridgnorth st Mary 11.11.1834 age 60.
They married at Wolverhampton John Doughty widower and Hannah Dunn spinster 16 Feb 1806 .
First wife probably Mary Oakes married Broseley 21.3.1805.

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Re: Doughty family Broseley/Bridgnorth
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 27 October 22 14:56 BST (UK) »
Thanks for that Ciderdrinker,

Baptisms at Broseley
Ann 28 Feb 1808 d of John and Hannah Doughty - Looks like I had already added that reference to my tree!
Sarah 10.3.1813 ditto waterman Salttown - Looked this up, mother didn't look to be Hannah Dunn
Rosanna 7 Sep 1817 ditto waterman - Had already added Rosanna to my tree. She was married to John Cale.
Couldn't see any other siblings come up for Ann and Rosanna.

Hannah buried Bridgnorth st Mary 11.11.1834 age 60. - Very useful, don't think I had found that date yet. Thanks.
They married at Wolverhampton John Doughty widower and Hannah Dunn spinster 16 Feb 1806 - This one was coming up in my hints, but wasn't sure it was them as outside of Shrops.
First wife probably Mary Oakes married Broseley 21.3.1805. - Looks like I viewed a record for this a few months ago. Wasn't sure if it was him. Guessing Mary Oakes must have died soon after?

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Re: Doughty family Broseley/Bridgnorth
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 29 October 22 12:33 BST (UK) »
Hello again
Thinking about that first marriage and comparing the signatures for John Doughty and I don't think it is the same man.
I think your John's first marriage is at Harley by licence15.6.1801 to an Elizabeth Hoking/Hollings widow.John is a waterman over 21. There is a possible son John Hassell Doughty at Broseley 3.10.1802 and Elizabeth is buried 26.5.1805 at Broseley.
The other marriage looks to be John's widowed father John Doughty and his wife Mary Oakes is buried 13.6.1808.
I assume they are both older and that is why they have no children .This man signs the John in his name with a curly bit on the J while his 'son' does / then a downward stroke on his J.

John senior married Catherine Cullice at Brosely 20.5.1773 so you can check both signatures.
Catherine was buried 28.9.1801 .John follows 23.1.1832 age 82 years Broseley.
Children Sarah 28.10.1774 ,John 13.9.1778 ,Anne 21.1.1781,Benjamin 30.10.1786 ,Edward 18.9.1781 ,Rosanna 18.1.1789 ,Thomas 13.1.1795 ,James born 15.12.1798 bapt 17.8.1800  .

The George and Mary witnessing Anne's marriages are John junior's first cousins.
George bapt 9.2.1796 s of George and Margaret Doughty nee Hartshorne , and George junior's  wife Mary.
George Senior bapt 29.4.1759 s of John and Ann Doughty nee Geary of Broseley who married at Madeley 7.6.1744.
John Doughty senior bapt 6.1.1749 and George's older brother.
The rest of John and Ann's brood
Sarah 29.6.1744,Elizabeth 16.3.1746,John,Richard 15.10.1752,Rebecca 1.4.1755, Edward 30.5.1756 ,George ,William 20.12.1761 .Benjamin 6.4.1764.
John was buried 23.9.1764 and Anne 3.3.1787. I think.
They all seem to working on the River Severn.
I'd love to suggest some lovely Wills  but I can't see any.

I'll see what  else I can find.

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Re: Doughty family Broseley/Bridgnorth
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 29 October 22 20:56 BST (UK) »
That looks like a whole lot of new info that I haven't seen.

John Doughty who died in Jan 1841, I have his will, and in a readable format. My tree is publicly viewable on Ancestry.

I don't know where you are seeing those signatures. What site are you using to view those?


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Re: Doughty family Broseley/Bridgnorth
« Reply #7 on: Monday 31 October 22 09:51 GMT (UK) »
Hi
Yes the signatures are on the marriages for John Doughty
John and Catharine Cullice 1773 Broseley
John and Mary Oakes 1805 Broseley
John and Hannah Dunn Wolverhampton 1806
John and Eliza Barrett Bridgnorth 1835

They are all on Find my Past .
If you haven't got it I'll send you copies by email if you pm me with your address.

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