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Missing birth at Leominster
« on: Saturday 05 November 22 16:28 GMT (UK) »

Ancestry has a baptismal record for what appear to be twin girls Mira and Mary Roberts, daughters of Charles and Ann at Orelton on 12th August 1840. I have been unable to find an image of this record.

I have found the BMD record for Mira's birth in the last quarter of 1839 at Leominster 26 188, but not for Mary.
Census records show them to have been the same age so I am puzzled to why Mary's birth has not been officially recorded.
Any suggestions please?

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Re: Missing birth at Leominster
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 05 November 22 16:43 GMT (UK) »
Good idea, but I was wrong!  :)
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Re: Missing birth at Leominster
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 05 November 22 16:45 GMT (UK) »
Have you found Mary and Mira on the census? Are they listed as the same age?

My only thought is that they may have been baptised together, but born a few years apart.

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Re: Missing birth at Leominster
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 05 November 22 17:10 GMT (UK) »
That was my original thought but census records have them the same age. 1841 they are both 9 months. 1851 for some reason they are now called Berry and Ancestry has Mira aged 10 and Mary 16, but I believe this to be a mistranslation. Mira becomes Mira Fewtrell and in 1881 Mary is visiting her, both recorded as the same age.


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Re: Missing birth at Leominster
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 05 November 22 17:22 GMT (UK) »
Mira's birth was registered in December quarter 1839 - Leominster RD - mmn = Goodman (GRO records).

I cannot see any other birth registration in that District - 1839 +/- 2 years - with mmn of Goodman.

 
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Re: Missing birth at Leominster
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 05 November 22 17:37 GMT (UK) »
The GRO Index for Mira was hand written. They were sometimes rewritten several times as the Index  became worn with comstant use, it quite possible Mary was accidentally missed off when the index was copied.
CHOULES All ,  COKER Harwich Essex & Rochester Kent 
COLE Gt. Oakley, & Lt. Oakley, Essex.
DUNCAN Kent
EVERITT Colchester,  Dovercourt & Harwich Essex
GULLIVER/GULLOFER Fifehead Magdalen Dorset
HORSCROFT Kent.
KING Sturminster Newton, Dorset. MONK Odiham Ham.
SCOTT Wrabness, Essex
WILKINS Stour Provost, Dorset.
WICKHAM All in North Essex.
WICKHAM Medway Towns, Kent from 1880
WICKHAM, Ipswich, Suffolk.

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Re: Missing birth at Leominster
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 05 November 22 17:40 GMT (UK) »
OK found them in 1851 under the surname of Berry - not sure that Mary is said to be 16, I read it as 10.

HO107 1981 folio 474 page 11


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Re: Missing birth at Leominster
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 05 November 22 18:11 GMT (UK) »
BumbleB do you mean the mother's maiden name was Goodman? If so that throws another spanner in the works!

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Re: Missing birth at Leominster
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 05 November 22 19:06 GMT (UK) »
The 1841 census was taken in June 1841.
If they were only nine months old at that time that would suggest they might have been born in the 3rd or 4th quarter of 1840  :-\
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