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Lockett / Florence
« on: Saturday 05 November 22 20:58 GMT (UK) »
I'm a bit confused regarding the marriage of John Lockett in 1846 in Keele Staffordshire to my great x 4 grandmother.  On ancestry it says he married Mary Florence (daughter of Richard Florence) but it also says he married Marie Harvey in the same year . Can anyone shed any light on this ?

Thanks

John lockets daughter was Susan lockett and she married Robert Cooke if that's any help
Halket- longton Stoke on Trent / Banff Scotland
Cooke - Meir/Longton Stoke on Trent
Emery- Meir/ Longton Stoke-on-Trent
Shaw - Birmingham
Leese - Longton/ Fenton/Stoke-on-Trent
Neild/Nield/Neeld/Neald- Uttoxeter/ Abbots bromley
Hodgkinson/Hodgkins - Uttoxeter/Hanbury/Lichfield/Rugeley/Abbots bromley
Brassington - Uttoxeter
Thorley - Stoke on Trent
Mears -Wetley Rocks/Longton Stoke on Trent
Breeze- Hanley/Longton/Stoke-on-Trent/Staffordshire/Shropshire
Burton - Uttoxeter

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Re: Lockett / Florence
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 05 November 22 21:02 GMT (UK) »
Ancestry is not a source for facts, so what do the sources themselves  say?
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Re: Lockett / Florence
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 05 November 22 21:10 GMT (UK) »
Ancestry is not a source for facts, so what do the sources themselves  say?

Some say John lockett married Mary Florence in 1846 in Staffs and others say he married Marie Harvey in 1846 in Staffs
Halket- longton Stoke on Trent / Banff Scotland
Cooke - Meir/Longton Stoke on Trent
Emery- Meir/ Longton Stoke-on-Trent
Shaw - Birmingham
Leese - Longton/ Fenton/Stoke-on-Trent
Neild/Nield/Neeld/Neald- Uttoxeter/ Abbots bromley
Hodgkinson/Hodgkins - Uttoxeter/Hanbury/Lichfield/Rugeley/Abbots bromley
Brassington - Uttoxeter
Thorley - Stoke on Trent
Mears -Wetley Rocks/Longton Stoke on Trent
Breeze- Hanley/Longton/Stoke-on-Trent/Staffordshire/Shropshire
Burton - Uttoxeter

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Re: Lockett / Florence
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 05 November 22 21:14 GMT (UK) »
Different people and locations

9 Feb 1846 - Keele
John Lockett - father Henry
Mary Florence

16 May 1846 -  Newcastle under Lyme
John Lockett - father Thomas
Maria Harvey

there's also
28 Dec 1846  -  Newcastle under Lyme
John Lockett - father Arthur
Elizabeth Bowers


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Re: Lockett / Florence
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 05 November 22 21:19 GMT (UK) »
Different people and locations

9 Feb 1846 - Keele
John Lockett - father Henry
Mary Florence

16 May 1846 -  Newcastle under Lyme
John Lockett - father Thomas
Maria Harvey

there's also
28 Dec 1846  -  Newcastle under Lyme
John Lockett - father Arthur
Elizabeth Bowers

Keele actually comes under Newcastle under Lyme that's why I was confused . I didn't see the grooms fatners names though so thank you that will helpfully be a big help
Halket- longton Stoke on Trent / Banff Scotland
Cooke - Meir/Longton Stoke on Trent
Emery- Meir/ Longton Stoke-on-Trent
Shaw - Birmingham
Leese - Longton/ Fenton/Stoke-on-Trent
Neild/Nield/Neeld/Neald- Uttoxeter/ Abbots bromley
Hodgkinson/Hodgkins - Uttoxeter/Hanbury/Lichfield/Rugeley/Abbots bromley
Brassington - Uttoxeter
Thorley - Stoke on Trent
Mears -Wetley Rocks/Longton Stoke on Trent
Breeze- Hanley/Longton/Stoke-on-Trent/Staffordshire/Shropshire
Burton - Uttoxeter

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Re: Lockett / Florence
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 05 November 22 21:33 GMT (UK) »
Son Henry b 1848 - mmn Florence

From your wording I suspect you are looking at Ancestry Hints.  They are just that - hints not facts.  All they basically do is cause a lot of confusion.

If you knew for a fact that her maiden name was Florence - ignore all other "hints"

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Re: Lockett / Florence
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 05 November 22 22:40 GMT (UK) »
Son Henry b 1848 - mmn Florence

From your wording I suspect you are looking at Ancestry Hints.  They are just that - hints not facts.  All they basically do is cause a lot of confusion.

If you knew for a fact that her maiden name was Florence - ignore all other "hints"

I'm not sure what her maiden name was fo be honest.  It was either Florence or Harvey. I've seen different trees on ancestry that are so mixed up it's laughable.  I use the hints and the trees and a starting point.

Any advice on how to confirm her maiden name ?
Halket- longton Stoke on Trent / Banff Scotland
Cooke - Meir/Longton Stoke on Trent
Emery- Meir/ Longton Stoke-on-Trent
Shaw - Birmingham
Leese - Longton/ Fenton/Stoke-on-Trent
Neild/Nield/Neeld/Neald- Uttoxeter/ Abbots bromley
Hodgkinson/Hodgkins - Uttoxeter/Hanbury/Lichfield/Rugeley/Abbots bromley
Brassington - Uttoxeter
Thorley - Stoke on Trent
Mears -Wetley Rocks/Longton Stoke on Trent
Breeze- Hanley/Longton/Stoke-on-Trent/Staffordshire/Shropshire
Burton - Uttoxeter

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Re: Lockett / Florence
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 05 November 22 22:43 GMT (UK) »
Which of their children are you descended from?

Look up the childs birth on freebmd then use GRO online to establish mmn

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Re: Lockett / Florence
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 05 November 22 22:49 GMT (UK) »
Which of their children are you descended from?

Look up the childs birth on freebmd then use GRO online to establish mmn

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Their daughter was susannah locket who married Robert Cooke.  Robert Cookes son was Joseph Cooke and Joseph Cookes son was my grandfather John Henry Cooke
Halket- longton Stoke on Trent / Banff Scotland
Cooke - Meir/Longton Stoke on Trent
Emery- Meir/ Longton Stoke-on-Trent
Shaw - Birmingham
Leese - Longton/ Fenton/Stoke-on-Trent
Neild/Nield/Neeld/Neald- Uttoxeter/ Abbots bromley
Hodgkinson/Hodgkins - Uttoxeter/Hanbury/Lichfield/Rugeley/Abbots bromley
Brassington - Uttoxeter
Thorley - Stoke on Trent
Mears -Wetley Rocks/Longton Stoke on Trent
Breeze- Hanley/Longton/Stoke-on-Trent/Staffordshire/Shropshire
Burton - Uttoxeter