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Information regarding parents of John Brindley (~1881-1883)
« on: Wednesday 09 November 22 01:04 GMT (UK) »
I'm not sure if this is the correct forum to post within, however, I was looking for some help regarding my ancestors.

John Brindley (~1815-~1883) was born in Cannock, Staffordshire, and buried at All Saints' Church in Staffordshire. He had two wives, Mary Green (1804-1870) m. 30.10.1939, and Charlotte Fletcher (1846-1923) - with whom he had three children. My great-grandmother is Kate Brindley, his second eldest - who emigrated to Australia with her husband.

I am looking for information regarding John Brindley's parents (if possible) - I did find a source in "England Marriages, 1538-1973" which has Thomas Brindley as John's father.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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Re: Information regarding parents of John Brindley (~1881-1883)
« Reply #1 on: Friday 11 November 22 12:37 GMT (UK) »
Hello Hannah
Welcome to the forum and let's see what we can do to help.
The 1839 marriage does give his father as Thomas Brindley keeper (presumably cows or sheep)

There is no baptism in Cannock but down the road in Bednall All Saints
John Brindley 9 July 1815 s of Thomas and Elizabeth of Teddesley Hay labourer
Teddesley Hay is 3 miles away.

Brother Charles 16 Nov 1817  ,sister Julia 2 May 1813
Elizabeth at Acton Trussell 17 May 1811
Before that at Colwich -George 10 Sep 1802 of Great Haywood
Mary Ann 2 Sep 1804 at Cannock of Cannock Wood ,Thomas 1 Jan 1807 and James 15 Jan 1809 of Teddesley Coppice.
So they had George 1802,Mary Ann 1804,Thomas 1807 ,James 1809 ,Elizabeth 1811, Julia 1813,John 1815 and Charles 1817

Unfortunately Thomas Brindley died very young ,only 46 years and was buried at Cannock St Luke 23 Feb 1818 of Teddesley.
It was were the couple had married 13.6.1802
Thomas Brindley bach and Elizabeth Bird  spins of this parish
both made a x

Thomas Brindley bapt at Cannock 2 Feb 1772 s of James and Mary Brindley of Cannock Wood.
wit Josh Rowley and Thomas Birch

Elizabeth  I'm struggling to find after her husbands death.

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Re: Information regarding parents of John Brindley (~1881-1883)
« Reply #2 on: Friday 11 November 22 18:37 GMT (UK) »
The Littletons of Teddesley Hall

Website: Fragments from the History of Penkridge

Gives lots of information on the Littleton family.

They had owned Teddesley Hay, an area of 2,625 acres to the north-est of Penkridge, since the mid-16 century.

Recorded in the above under : Estate Workers is:

BRINDLEY George 1881 - Quarry Heath, woodsman
BRINDLEY Thomas 1863 employed on Teddesley Farm, draining labourer.

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I live in Cannock and also lived in Penkridge.  Could well be the family worked on Teddesley Estate.
Shoemaking was a local occupation both in Stafford and nearby places.

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St Luke's Church - not sure how easy it would be to find a grave.

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Regarding John BRINDLEY's father being a Keeper.

From the above website of Estate Workers - in 1867, John DAWSON, employed on Teddesley Farm, as a Keeper, aged 28, 4 years service.

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GENUKI Staffordshire

From History, Gazetter and Directory of Staffordshire, William White, Sheffield 1851

Teddesley Hay is an extra-parochial manor, comprising of 61 souls and 2586 acre of land, on the western side of Cannock Chase, from which it was enclosed by the late owner, Sir Edward Littleton. etc etc

Population of Teddesley Hay extra parochial district was as follows:

1831 - 50
1841 - 61

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Could you provide Census information.

 

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Re: Information regarding parents of John Brindley (~1881-1883)
« Reply #3 on: Friday 11 November 22 21:37 GMT (UK) »
National Archives

Google: A2a

Title: TEDDESLEY HAY

Description: Earl of Oxford v Sir Edward Littleton

Depositions in case in Court of Wards

Liveries in which Earl of Oxford as lord of manor of ACTON TRUSSELL &  BENDALL complains of enclosures, etc. made within the hay to the detriment of his own tenants and property rights.



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Re: Information regarding parents of John Brindley (~1881-1883)
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 12 November 22 10:13 GMT (UK) »
Possible for Elizabeth?

Marriage;
14 Jan 1822, St Mary, Stafford
Elizabeth BRINDLEY Widow
Benjamin Smith LAMBERT Widower
Witnesses, Elizabeth ATKINS/Thomas BRINDLEY (Son born c 1807?)

Burial
23 Mar 1827 St Modwen, Burton-upon-Trent
Elizabeth LAMBERT age 43
Abode Burton
(c 1784)

Benjamin may be alive in 1841 born c 1781 and remarried 1840 to Sarah Norton
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Cummins, Miskelly(IRELAND + NZ) ,Leggett (SFK + NFK ENGLAND + NZ),Purdy ( NBL ENGLAND + NZ ), Shaw YKS, LANCs + NZ), Holdsworth(LINCS +LANCS + NZ), Moloney, Dean, Fitzpatrick, ( County Down,IRE) Newby(NBL.ENG, Costello(IRE), Ivers, Murray(IRE),Reay(NBL.ENG) Reid (BERW.SCOTLAND)

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Re: Information regarding parents of John Brindley (~1881-1883)
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 12 November 22 10:22 GMT (UK) »
Possible;

ELIZ Bird bapt 01 Jan 1781, St Peter ad Vincula, Stoke-upon-Trent to GEO/MARY
A few siblings on FreeREG also
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Cummins, Miskelly(IRELAND + NZ) ,Leggett (SFK + NFK ENGLAND + NZ),Purdy ( NBL ENGLAND + NZ ), Shaw YKS, LANCs + NZ), Holdsworth(LINCS +LANCS + NZ), Moloney, Dean, Fitzpatrick, ( County Down,IRE) Newby(NBL.ENG, Costello(IRE), Ivers, Murray(IRE),Reay(NBL.ENG) Reid (BERW.SCOTLAND)

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Re: Information regarding parents of John Brindley (~1881-1883)
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 12 November 22 10:31 GMT (UK) »
Hi
Yes the others beat me too it.
But here is the map for the Keepers Lodge at Teddesley Park

https://maps.nls.uk/view/115474134
The actual Hall is on the Map above .
And the Lodge still exists today and is a Grade II listed building

This is sales particulars showing you inside and out
www.bootandson.co.uk/media/filer_public/5b/7c/5b7c76f8-4610-400f-b02a-8f749aba8ea5/keepers_lodge.pdf

They have done it up a lot!

ps there are places just north of Cannock -Brindley Valley.Brindley Heath and Brindley Walk so your ancestors have been in the local area for some time.

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Re: Information regarding parents of John Brindley (~1881-1883)
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 12 November 22 11:25 GMT (UK) »
Hello
Not wanting to be rude but I disagree with Trish slightly.
Great find for that marriage .(They also got married at the Catholic church ST john the Baptist at Gt Haywood 14 Jan 1822 .Benjamin Lambert confirmed there 1822)
But.. if we look at the christening of George Brindley their first child at Colwich in 1802.
What if her family came from there?

Elizabeth Byrd d of George and Ann Byrd of Morton baptised 16 Feb 1783 at Colwich.

Siblings Ann 4 April 1779 of Great Haywood ,William 20 May 1781 of Great Haywood-29 Mar 1782 of Morton ,George 9 Jan 1791 of Morton  , Thomas 27 Oct 1793 of Morton ,John 12 June 1796-9.7.1797  Morton ,Mary 30 Dec 1798 of Morton Lane.

The couple married at Colwich
George Byrd of this parish and Ann Tooth of this parish by banns 26 Dec 1778 .
He signed she made a x
wit William Carrer and E Dorrington

George buried there 6 Mar 1827 age 76 years of Moreton lane.
Bapt Rugley St Augustine 25 June 1750 to another George and Ann Bird
Anne buried 22 Dec 1829 age 75 years widow of George Sick lane.
Bapt Colwich 6 Feb 1756 Ann d of William and Elizabeth Tooth.

Ann 's Administration of £20 has survived.
Her son George Byrd paper maker of Great Haywood Executor.

And as I'm on
James Brindley collier married Mary Nevill 22 Sep 1761 at Cannock
By banns both of this parish
He signed ,she made a x
Wit Thomas Byrch and Thomas Nevill

James s of Charles Brindley bapt 24 Feb 1738 Cannock.Buuried 3 Sep 1818 age 74 years of Cannock Wood
Mary Brindley buried 16 July 1819 age 83 Cannock Wood .Bapt 12 March 1737 d of William Nevill.

Children Bette 11.7.1762 of Cannock Wood,Sarah Dec 1764 of Cannock Wood,Molley 5 Oct 1766 of Cank wood , James 29 Oct 1769 of CW ,Thomas 2 Feb 1772 of Cw .Lucy 27 Mar 1774 of CW,Charles 2 .3.1777 of CW,Charles 21 Feb 1779 of CW,Catharine 5 May 1782 of CW.
The clerk can't spell Cannock.

Thats all
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