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Re: Dublin marriage Leahey/Crawford
« Reply #9 on: Thursday 17 November 22 11:02 GMT (UK) »
Wikipedia definition here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_Brethren

Often referred to as Plymouth Brethren though here in Ireland it’s not a term they use. Here they mostly call themselves simply Brethren or Christian Brethren.

Using a Register Office wouldn’t get around the parental consent requirement. If under 21, consent was still needed, but maybe she fibbed.
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Re: Dublin marriage Leahey/Crawford
« Reply #10 on: Thursday 17 November 22 11:04 GMT (UK) »
Wikipedia definition here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_Brethren

Often referred to as Plymouth Brethren though here in Ireland it’s not a term they use. Here they mostly call themselves simply Brethren or Christian Brethren.

Using a Register Office wouldn’t get around the parental consent requirement. If under 21, consent was still needed, but maybe she fibbed.

She definitely fibbed! Thanks for the explanation. Crawfords were COI.

Next quest...find them in the 1871 census.

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Re: Dublin marriage Leahey/Crawford
« Reply #11 on: Thursday 17 November 22 11:06 GMT (UK) »
Other reasons for a Registry Office marriage might be pregnant bride or recent family bereavement.

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Who do you mean by "Brethren"?
There were many Protestant denominations, including Plymouth Brethren-
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plymouth_Brethren
"The Plymouth Brethren or Assemblies of Brethren are a low church and non-conformist Christian movement whose history can be traced back to Dublin, Ireland, in the mid to late 1820s, where they originated from Anglicanism."
Other ministers, such as Reformed Presbyterians, were also not allowed to perform legal marriages. Locally, I found that a couple would have gotten married in the Registry Offices but also had a ceremony in their R.P. church. If an announcement appears in the newspaper the church was listed as the place of marriage.
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Re: Dublin marriage Leahey/Crawford
« Reply #12 on: Thursday 17 November 22 11:10 GMT (UK) »
Other reasons for a Registry Office marriage might be pregnant bride or recent family bereavement.

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Who do you mean by "Brethren"?
There were many Protestant denominations, including Plymouth Brethren-
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plymouth_Brethren
"The Plymouth Brethren or Assemblies of Brethren are a low church and non-conformist Christian movement whose history can be traced back to Dublin, Ireland, in the mid to late 1820s, where they originated from Anglicanism."
Other ministers, such as Reformed Presbyterians, were also not allowed to perform legal marriages. Locally, I found that a couple would have gotten married in the Registry Offices but also had a ceremony in their R.P. church. If an announcement appears in the newspaper the church was listed as the place of marriage.

Thanks, worth bearing in mind.


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Re: Dublin marriage Leahey/Crawford
« Reply #13 on: Thursday 17 November 22 16:50 GMT (UK) »
RIC Number 6864 William Leahey.
5 foot 11. Native of Cavan. Protestant.
Aged 19 on joining on 8 March 1842. Recommended by Sub Insp. Wray. No previous occupation.
Married a woman from Fermanagh on 19 November 1849.
Assigned to Tyrone for 4 months; Clare for 3 months; Fermanagh - no date given; Donegal from 1 March 1862; Westmeath from 1 February 1863; Galway East Riding from 1 January 1866.
Promoted to Constable on 1 March 1849; 2nd Head Constable on 1 March 1862.
One favourable report, three unfavourable.
Pensioned 16 October 1867. No further pension information, He may have died early and not have claimed it long enough to be included when the existing records were created.

Being 19 when joining 'may' have meant he already had a family member serving.

**edit - while it does not give a date of death, a gratuity was calculated for his widow in  June 1870, allowing for her and 6 eligible children.
Coffey, Cummins [Rathfalla, Tipperary], Cummins [Skirke, Laois], Curran, Dillon [Clare], Fogarty [Garran, Laois/Tipp], Hughes, Keshan (Keeshan), Loughman [Harristown and Killadooley, Laois], Mallon [Armagh], Malone, Markham [Caherkine, Clare], McKeon(e) [Sligo/Kilkenny/Waterford], McNamara, Meagher, Prescott [Kilkenny/Waterford/Wexford?], Rafferty, Ryan, Sullivan, Tobin
GEDMatch: T665306 tested with Family Tree DNA and also with ancestry
GEDCOM file: 1980344