The marriages of EDWARD LLOYD of Berthlwyd, Montgomerieshire, Wales

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I've just found a folder which contains misc records on Montgomeryshire families by Bill Baxter. It's about 15 or so years old. I'll look through it but could take a while.

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This is what I have found of the Lloyd family in Llanidloes:

Sir EDWARD LLOYD - probably born ca 1580 to 1600 (son of Jenkin Lloyd);  Sir Edward Lloyd was buried Llanidloes, Wales 2 Mar 1665/6 (PRx);  m URSULA ... 

The will of Edward Lloyd, knight of Berth Lloyd, Llanidloes, Wales, dated __ (probated 1665), mentions eldest son Edward Lloyd Esquire.Nicholas Vanacker (gentleman, of London), John Srimpshire (gentleman, of Nottingham), John Salisbury (baronet, of Lleweny), Thomas Middleton (knight, of Cefn y werne), John Carter (knight, of Rinalt), Hugh Pugh (Clerk, of Llanbedr, Denbigh), John Vaughan (Esquire, of Erawgoed, Cardiganshire), Sir John Witterwrange (knight, baronet, of Rosehem steede, Hartford), John Witterwrange (Esquire, of Stauton, Buckinghamshire), trustee Thomas Davies (gentleman, of Llanidloes), trustee John Wilson (gentleman, of Llanidloes), wife Ursula Lloyd, dau Anne Thelwall (of Llanbedr, Denbigh), dau Dorothy Bretton, Daniel Bretton, gr-son Edward Lloyd (gentleman), Lewis Lloyd (gentleman, of Llanidloes), father Jenkin Lloyd Esquire, grandchildren (children of daus Anne Thelwall & Dorothy Bretton) and ___ [will incomplete)
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EDWARD (eldest son)  b say 1623; liv. 1665 (father's will)

The complete will might be in the Welsh Wills on the Nat Library of Wales.

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It is in Welsh Wills but the Nat Lib are having problems at the moment so the searches aren't working correctly


Link to Welsh Wills:

https://www.library.wales/catalogues-searching/catalogues/specialist-catalogues/wills

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Thanks v much for all your info.

It appears Edward did m Catherine/Katherine (spelt K by her father Sir John) It appears he was bap 13/18.12.1631 (just after his parents m 31.12.1631 St Mary, Aldermanry, London, (a/c ro Wikip....

As noted on the m licence of 1687 Edward was a widower at 55 and it appears he m (1) Dorothy Booker/Brooker a/c to several sources and they had children - 1 of whom gson Edward is mentioned in the Will - not sure about gson Lewis. I noted somewhere that Edward & Katherine had 2 kids - Lewis could have been theirs, though Katherine would have been v nearly 45 on her wedding day

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There are only brief mentions of Berthllwyd (Berth Llwyd) in Griffith's Pedigrees, mainly about Jenkin Lloyd.

There is a section about Berthllwyd in Collections Historical & Archaeological relating to Montgomeryshire vol 4: https://www.google.co.uk/books/edition/Collections_Historical_Archaeological_Re/J5cxAQAAIAAJ?hl

The main article in on p378, although it doesn't mention Edward b 1631. You can search inside or download a PDF

There are also mentions of the family in vol 6 and 26 and other books in Google Books

David

P.S. This link mentions Edward, but not his family  https://archive.org/details/pedigreesofmontg00rode/page/108/mode/2up

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Thanks for this - Google Books can be very helpful on FTs

It appears that Ursula Salusbury (or however spelt) gmother was the dau of Sir Thomas Myddleton. He was the gfather of Mary Myddleton, the 1st wife of Katherine Wittewronge's father Sir John W - they did say there was much inter marrying in that family!

Unfortunately no mention of Edward's 1st m (before Katherine)

Simon

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The National Libray also has the Chirk Castle Estate papers, which, of course, includes much of the Myddleton's affairs.

I found them very useful when I was researching two of my 'noble lines'.

ADD - link:

https://archives.library.wales/index.php/chirk-castle-estate-records

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Specifically:

https://archives.library.wales/index.php/myddelton-family-of-gwaenynog-denbigh-chirk-and-ruthin-denbighshire-london-and-essex

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Are you familiar with Welsh Journals?  https://journals.library.wales

Searching for "sir edward lloyd" (include the "  " as part of search key) returns 56 hits. Some will confirm the parents of Edward born around 1631. The "hits" cover more than just the Sir Edward born 1631 - but seem to apply to the same family.
Alternative search keys are (a) berthllwyd (b) wittewronge but I haven't checked the "hits" returned.

Pob lwc