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Re: Trying To Identify Sailor - John G Sutherland
« Reply #36 on: Saturday 19 November 22 10:02 GMT (UK) »
There are two possible births in Caithness - J G Sutherland in Halkirk 1928 and J G C Sutherland in Dunnet in 1933.

What is the evidence that the J G Sutherland who was awarded the Royal Victorian Medal in 1952 is the same man as the J G C Sutherland who was awarded the Naval General Service Medal 1915-1962 - Near East?

J G C Sutherland's number seems to be P/JX.865395, according to the particulars of his medal. Is there a record anywhere of J G Sutherland's number?

Its the same man. I have papers showing the additional initial J G C Sutherland showing that he was in attendance at the funeral. I am convinced he is the man from Dunnet born in 1933. Why it said Halkirk in the newspaper is a bit of a mystery but people have done stranger things.
An interesting side note - the article says he cancelled his honeymoon because of the motoring conviction (1958) but I cant find a likely marriage for that year.......

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Re: Trying To Identify Sailor - John G Sutherland
« Reply #37 on: Saturday 19 November 22 10:14 GMT (UK) »
John G Sutherland to Cynthia E Farquhar, Harrow 1958/Dec/5f/726?
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Re: Trying To Identify Sailor - John G Sutherland
« Reply #38 on: Saturday 19 November 22 10:32 GMT (UK) »
John G Sutherland to Cynthia E Farquhar, Harrow 1958/Dec/5f/726?

Saw that one as the only likely one. Was hoping for somewhere nearer home or perhaps Portsmouth area.

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Re: Trying To Identify Sailor - John G Sutherland
« Reply #39 on: Saturday 19 November 22 10:32 GMT (UK) »
From reports of the original trial in August 1958 he was " Leading Seaman George Sutherland (25), of 31, Braal Terrace, Halkirk, Caithness".  He was due to be married in October.
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Re: Trying To Identify Sailor - John G Sutherland
« Reply #40 on: Saturday 19 November 22 10:49 GMT (UK) »
From reports of the original trial in August 1958 he was " Leading Seaman George Sutherland (25), of 31, Braal Terrace, Halkirk, Caithness".  He was due to be married in October.

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Perhaps the simple answer is that he was born in Dunnet but lived in Halkirk and so thats what was quoted in the Newspapers.

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Re: Trying To Identify Sailor - John G Sutherland
« Reply #41 on: Saturday 19 November 22 10:51 GMT (UK) »
Perhaps the simple answer is that he was born in Dunnet but lived in Halkirk and so thats what was quoted in the Newspapers.
That is the most obvious explanation.
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Re: Trying To Identify Sailor - John G Sutherland
« Reply #42 on: Saturday 19 November 22 10:57 GMT (UK) »
The marriage seems to be our man as there is a son born in 1960 in PORTSMOUTH............

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Re: Trying To Identify Sailor - John G Sutherland
« Reply #43 on: Saturday 19 November 22 11:02 GMT (UK) »
Your instinct about the 1928 birth seems to be correct.

There is reported to be a gravestone in Elgin that reads In loving memory of JOHN GEORGE SUTHERLAND died 18th April 1999 aged 70 a dear dad and grandad and loving husband of ANNE MACKAY

John George Sutherland married Annie Reid Mackay in Kildonan in 1960.

So I think that almost certainly eliminates the son of George S and Helen Moodie, born 1928 in Halkirk and died 1999 in Elgin, as a possibility for your J G Sutherland.
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Re: Trying To Identify Sailor - John G Sutherland
« Reply #44 on: Saturday 19 November 22 14:42 GMT (UK) »
There is only one child showing following the 1958 Harrow marriage that I can see.

Wondering if a divorce or the death of JGC following this? There is a possible marriage for Cynthia in Harrow in 1968 (Cynthia E Sutherland 5b/2189).

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