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Help deciphering these letters please
« on: Wednesday 23 November 22 10:25 GMT (UK) »
Hi all, I’ve been sent these letters by a distant cousin and he’s ask if I can help decipher them!

I think they all relate to the same thing, I can make out small parts, but not what it actually has to do with John Symons who wrote them.

I’ve picked out that it’s something to do with a Mr Eccles and a mortgage or the deeds for a house and lack of payment, John is in Toledo, USA and the house I think is in Ottawa, Canada where John previously lived.

I can make out the name Peter Frederick Hendricks in the letter that mentions selling the house.

If anyone can decipher or even tell me what’s going on it would be a great help, thanks.
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Re: Help deciphering these letters please
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 23 November 22 10:26 GMT (UK) »
One more
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Re: Help deciphering these letters please
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 24 November 22 19:44 GMT (UK) »
First letter, first attempt. Who can fill in some gaps?

Ottawa, December 8th 1872
Dear Sir,
... and I ... send
you enclosed deed ... ... of
... and ... Mr Heinricks.
I send also instructions to be followed in execu-
ting the deed. When executed return it
to me and I shall receive the money pay Mr
Eccles ... and the taxes of any
with the expenses ... the mortgage
which of course you ... pay and the
balance I will send to you in any manner
you desire and ... ...
Yours
...
Mr John Symons
Toledo

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« Reply #3 on: Thursday 24 November 22 20:21 GMT (UK) »
Second letter, first attempt.

Ottawa, 17th November ad 1871
Dear Sir,
Mr Eccles requires payment of your
mortgage ...
I have been offered  by a ...
here ... ...
... will you sell it for that price.
The ... name is Peter Frederick
Hendricks
Yours
...
Mr John Symons
Stone carver
... street
Toledo Ohio U.S.


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Re: Help deciphering these letters please
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 24 November 22 22:41 GMT (UK) »
Mrs Eccles requires payment of your mortgage to her.

...offered by a party here two thousand dollars for other lot(?)
Coffey, Cummins [Rathfalla, Tipperary], Cummins [Skirke, Laois], Curran, Dillon [Clare], Fogarty [Garran, Laois/Tipp], Hughes, Keshan (Keeshan), Loughman [Harristown and Killadooley, Laois], Mallon [Armagh], Malone, Markham [Caherkine, Clare], McKeon(e) [Sligo/Kilkenny/Waterford], McNamara, Meagher, Prescott [Kilkenny/Waterford/Wexford?], Rafferty, Ryan, Sullivan, Tobin
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« Reply #5 on: Friday 25 November 22 07:52 GMT (UK) »
Thank you, just off to work but will add a proper reply later
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« Reply #6 on: Friday 25 November 22 08:14 GMT (UK) »
First letter, first attempt. Who can fill in some gaps?

Ottawa, December 8th 1872
Dear Sir,
your letter recdand I now?send
you enclosed deed in supt of
... and ... Mr Heinricks.
I send also instructions to be followed in execu-
ting the deed. When executed return it
to me and I shall receive the money pay Mr
Eccles ... and the taxes of any
with the expenses ... the mortgage
which of course you ... pay and the
balance I will send to you in any manner
you desire and ... ...
Yours
...
Mr John Symons
Toledo

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« Reply #7 on: Saturday 26 November 22 09:59 GMT (UK) »
Fantastic stuff, thank you. We have no idea what this actually has to do with John Symons as he was a stone mason! Think it may be church related as I think one of them says Luther Unitary in it!

So Mrs Eccles owns a house that, whomever the letters are too, has to pay the mortgage on? But Mr Heinricks wants to buy it? So if Mrs Eccles owns it, why does he ask the person if they are happy to sell it to Mr Heinricks?

Still confused just slightly less lol
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« Reply #8 on: Saturday 26 November 22 21:21 GMT (UK) »
With the suggestions of Dublin1850 and mckha489 I managed to fill in some gaps.


Ottawa, December 8th 1872
Dear Sir,
your letter rec(eive)d and I now send
you enclosed deed in sup(por)t of
... and ... Mr Heinricks.
I send also instructions to be followed in execu-
ting the deed. When executed return it
to me and I shall receive the money pay Mrs
Eccles ... and the taxes of any
with the expenses of discharging the mortgage
which of course you are to pay and the
balance I will send to you in any manner
you desire and ... me to do.
Yours
...
Mr John Symons
Toledo

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Ottawa, 17th November ad 1871
Dear Sir,
Mrs Eccles requires payment of your
mortgage to her.
I have been offered by a party
here two hundred dollars for the
lot. Will you sell it for that price?
The parties name is Peter Frederick
Hendricks.
Yours
...
Mr John Symons
Stone carver
... street
Toledo Ohio U.S.