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Isabella Ellwood born 1869
« on: Monday 05 December 22 01:39 GMT (UK) »
Isabella Ellwood (born 1869) is my great grandmother.  She had a daughter Agnes Jane Ellwood (born 1895) who is my grandmother.  I have no idea if Ellwood is Isabella's maiden name, but John Ellwood (born 1832) had a daugter named Isabella who was also born 1869.  All seem to be from the Penrith area.  Isabella has two potential spouses, George Ralph Wataon (born 1859) or Joseph Ellwood (born 1876) who just might be her brother ????   Any help would be appreciated :-)

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Re: Isabella Ellwood born 1869
« Reply #1 on: Monday 05 December 22 03:26 GMT (UK) »
Agnes Jane Ellwood - born Dec.1895 Penrith - has a mmn of Burrell.

She was baptised 1/11/1895 Penrith, dau. of Joseph Ellwood and Isabella.

Joseph Ellwood married Isabella Burrell Jun.qtr.1892 Penrith.

So, Isabella was Isabella Burrell not Ellwood.  Looks like husband Joseph Ellwood was bc.1861 and died Sept.qtr.1895 Penrith shortly before Agnes was born.

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Re: Isabella Ellwood born 1869
« Reply #2 on: Monday 05 December 22 03:36 GMT (UK) »

Isabella Ellwood [Isabella Burrell]
Age:    32
Birth Date:    1867
Marriage Date:    22 Jul 1899
Marriage Place:    Penrith, Cumberland, England
Father:    William Burrell
Spouse:    George Ralph Watson

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Re: Isabella Ellwood born 1869
« Reply #3 on: Monday 05 December 22 03:47 GMT (UK) »
Looks like they had a son Joseph Ellwood born and died Dec.1892 Penrith followed by Alfred Pearson Ellwood born 1894 and baptised 15/4/1894 Penrith plus Agnes Jane 1895.  In 1901 census both Alfred and Agnes shown as Watson rather than Ellwood.

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Re: Isabella Ellwood born 1869
« Reply #4 on: Monday 05 December 22 14:26 GMT (UK) »
Yikes, that creates another (worse?) Issue for me. I had Ellwood as her maiden name, and she married my grandfather John William Troughton (born 1891) to become Agnes Troughton. They had Noreen, Doris, Muriel and Jack.  Beginning to see how confusing this can all get. Never sure who to believe (ancestry vs myheritage vs FamilySearch)

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Re: Isabella Ellwood born 1869
« Reply #5 on: Monday 05 December 22 14:41 GMT (UK) »
Never sure who to believe (ancestry vs myheritage vs FamilySearch)

Do you mean the trees that people put on these sites?
They are only as good as the research done to produce them.
The individual sites can host a 100% accurate tree or a complete rubbish tree and anything in between, they do not check anything for accuracy.
Berks / Oxon: Eltham, Annetts, Wiltshire (surname not county), Hawkins, Pembroke, Partridge
Dorset / Hants: Derham, Stride, Purkiss, Sibley
Yorkshire: Pottage, Carr, Blackburn, Depledge
Sussex: Goodyer, Christopher, Trevatt
Lanark: Scott (soldier went to Jersey CI)
Jersey: Fowler, Huelin, Scott

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Re: Isabella Ellwood born 1869
« Reply #6 on: Monday 05 December 22 14:49 GMT (UK) »
Yikes, that creates another (worse?) Issue for me. I had Ellwood as her maiden name, and she married my grandfather John William Troughton (born 1891) to become Agnes Troughton. They had Noreen, Doris, Muriel and Jack.  Beginning to see how confusing this can all get. Never sure who to believe (ancestry vs myheritage vs FamilySearch)

GRO shows Ellwood as mother's maiden name.
But, I have on my tree several children born to a women through her second marriage. Some were registered with her real maiden name, but some were registered with her first husband's surname name instead. Possibly misunderstood when asked the question " What was your previous surname?"

But it looks like Agnes Jane's maiden name was Ellwood, it's Isabella who is the puzzle
Berks / Oxon: Eltham, Annetts, Wiltshire (surname not county), Hawkins, Pembroke, Partridge
Dorset / Hants: Derham, Stride, Purkiss, Sibley
Yorkshire: Pottage, Carr, Blackburn, Depledge
Sussex: Goodyer, Christopher, Trevatt
Lanark: Scott (soldier went to Jersey CI)
Jersey: Fowler, Huelin, Scott

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Re: Isabella Ellwood born 1869
« Reply #7 on: Monday 05 December 22 15:10 GMT (UK) »
The Watson surname appears for Agnes on a census. That often happens for stepchildren. What you see for 1841 to 1901 censuses are the enumerator's form,  copied from the individual house holders forms.
It depends how fully the head of household had completed the form. If he just put his own full name, then followed by the forenames of wife and children / stepchildren, and did not differentiate between children and stepchildren, just listed them all as children, the enumerator would by default give them all the same surname as the head of household.
Berks / Oxon: Eltham, Annetts, Wiltshire (surname not county), Hawkins, Pembroke, Partridge
Dorset / Hants: Derham, Stride, Purkiss, Sibley
Yorkshire: Pottage, Carr, Blackburn, Depledge
Sussex: Goodyer, Christopher, Trevatt
Lanark: Scott (soldier went to Jersey CI)
Jersey: Fowler, Huelin, Scott

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Re: Isabella Ellwood born 1869
« Reply #8 on: Monday 05 December 22 15:35 GMT (UK) »
Apolgies if I am getting confused (easily done :) ) but based on her daughter's birth below I think Isabella's maiden name was Burrell and based on Isabella's second marriage in 1899 her father's name was William Burrell :-\

ELLWOOD, AGNES  JANE      BURRELL     
GRO Ref 1895  D Quarter in PENRITH  Volume 10B  Page 453

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