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Offline RobertHauteville

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One family Two Coats of Arms C.14th?
« on: Monday 05 December 22 22:48 GMT (UK) »
If a family owned part of their lands from the paternal side, and part of their land from their maternal side (i.e., heiresses with no surviving brothers) would the arms they carried be the same no matter whether they were being summoned to serve for their paternal or maternal lands? i.e., if they were summoned to perform Knight service on their paternal lands they would bear their plain vanilla paternal coat of arms, but if they were summoned to serve on their maternal lands would they would bear arms that merged their maternal arms with their paternal?

Obviously in the C14th Centruy there was no College of Arms to enforce a uniform set of rules like quartering..


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Re: One family Two Coats of Arms C.14th?
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 06 December 22 04:55 GMT (UK) »
Presuming that you are referring to English/French usage, Coats of Arms, especially in the period you mention, reflected the male descent of the senior male member of the family. They had no connection with the ownership of land as such. So the summoned knight would bear his own personal arms, which might or might not reflect his father's arms, but would not normally refer to his mother's.
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Re: One family Two Coats of Arms C.14th?
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 06 December 22 05:08 GMT (UK) »
South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland:- Bowie, Campbell, Cumming, Currie

Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

Canada:- Callaghan, Cumming, MacPhee

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