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How do you say this name?
« on: Saturday 10 December 22 10:43 GMT (UK) »
The name GORLE - pronounced with a hard G as in "grape", or a soft G as in "giraffe"?

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« Reply #1 on: Saturday 10 December 22 10:50 GMT (UK) »
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Re: How do you say this name?
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 10 December 22 10:53 GMT (UK) »
In British english, G followed by an O is always pronounced hard, as in go and got. I can't speak for other languages spoken within these Isles, such as Cymric (Welsh), Cornish, Gaelic or Irish (Erse). 

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Re: How do you say this name?
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 10 December 22 10:57 GMT (UK) »
Thanks for the replies, but does anyone have the name Gorle or know someone called Gorle who can answer this?

Gadget - that automated American pronunciation is amusing but ... well, you know...

Andy - thanks, I would just say that this is a name and names are quirky

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Re: How do you say this name?
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 10 December 22 10:58 GMT (UK) »
Just by way of background, I'm wondering if the name 'Gorle' said with a soft G could be heard (and subsequently transcribed) as 'Jewell'. If so, it might explain a quirk in my research.

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Re: How do you say this name?
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 10 December 22 13:58 GMT (UK) »
Quote from: baytree1970 on Saturday 10 December 22 10:58 GMT (UK)
Just by way of background, I'm wondering if the name 'Gorle' said with a soft G could be heard (and subsequently transcribed) as 'Jewell'. If so, it might explain a quirk in my research.
That is a different question. If someone who is semi-literate doesn't know how to spell Jewell and puts Gool or similar, then that is perfectly possible. (Think of the way Jail is sometimes spelt Goal) The fact that we modern types expect to pronounce it with a hard G and he didn't is merely confusing.
However, whether your 'oo' sound might become the 'or' in Gorle would depend on local pronunciation and I don't know the area at all.

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Re: How do you say this name?
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 10 December 22 14:06 GMT (UK) »
Quote from: garden genie on Saturday 10 December 22 13:58 GMT (UK)
Think of the way Jail is sometimes spelt Goal.
Well yes it may be by some (which will be confusing for football fans) but the conventional G spelling is Gaol. :)

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Re: How do you say this name?
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 10 December 22 16:08 GMT (UK) »
Quote from: Andy J2022 on Saturday 10 December 22 14:06 GMT (UK)
Quote from: garden genie on Saturday 10 December 22 13:58 GMT (UK)
Think of the way Jail is sometimes spelt Goal.
Well yes it may be by some (which will be confusing for football fans) but the conventional G spelling is Gaol. :)
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Re: How do you say this name?
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 10 December 22 17:15 GMT (UK) »
What I imagine happens is this - couple get married or get their kid baptised, none of them can write - parish official asks their name, which they give - parish official writes down what he hears. If they say 'Gorle' with a soft G, especially with a rustic accent, I can see how the guy from the parish hears 'Jewell' and writes that down...

... thereby scoring an 'own-gaol'

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