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looking for what happened to 2 Graham girls last seen in North Shields 1911
« on: Saturday 10 December 22 17:17 GMT (UK) »
Hello again,
I am trying to find out more about what happened to 2 of my ancestor's sisters.
I have just received a copy of the birth certificate of the older girl, on her certificate she is stated to have been born in Glenville Terrace, Newcastle in 1899 to Patrick Graham and Catherine Graham formerly Coleman.
The family next move to Jarrow where their next daughter Catherine is born, I have her baptism record from St Bede's Catholic Church Jarrow. They are all on the 1901 census in Jarrow.
In 1911 they are at 25 and 24 North Street, North Shields.
In 1921 the Graham  family are at 25 Front Street, North Shields, however both Catherine and Norah are missing and I cannot find them  elsewhere on the 1921 census.
I have a couple of records of Catherine later, one where she purchases the grave plot in Wallsend in 1948 for her parents Patrick and Catherine,  and one in 1957 where the is a witness at a wedding ( Don't want to give details  about the wedding as living persons are involved). I have had some feedback about potentially finding death records for Catherine in Scotland but  I haven't got any further with that yet.
On family history sites I have seen people claiming 2 marriages for Norah, however, when looking at Freebmd I cannot find them.
I would really like to find out more about these 2 girls and if Norah did marry, who she married. I don't seem to be making much progress. Any help would be appreciated.

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Re: looking for what happened to 2 Graham girls last seen in North Shields 1911
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 10 December 22 17:22 GMT (UK) »
So Norah.

What potential marriages did you see suggested by other people?

Go the dates of birth for the girls? What candidates appear in 1939?
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Re: looking for what happened to 2 Graham girls last seen in North Shields 1911
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 10 December 22 17:38 GMT (UK) »
There is a Norah Graham born about 1900 aged 32 who died in Qtr 2 1932 in Newcastle Vol 10B Page 165
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Re: looking for what happened to 2 Graham girls last seen in North Shields 1911
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 10 December 22 17:38 GMT (UK) »
I find marriage of Norah Mary Graham on 28 May 1921 at St Dominic's to Jacob or James Traynor or Trainor.

(Sponsa Nora Maria, parents Patricius and Catharina. Sponsus Jacobus.)

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Re: looking for what happened to 2 Graham girls last seen in North Shields 1911
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 10 December 22 20:46 GMT (UK) »
If you can not find her under Trainer perhaps have a look at  this marriage

Norah M Trainer spouse James F Collins Tynemouth December 1934,
Gunning County Down,Kneale Isle of Man,Riddle Tynemouth,Bibby Kendal/Bradford,Colenso Penzance/Barrow-in-Furness,Steele Corney Fell,Chapman Ely,Dawes Alfreton,Blamire Westmoreland and Ulverston
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Re: looking for what happened to 2 Graham girls last seen in North Shields 1911
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 10 December 22 21:01 GMT (UK) »
if you have their birth details why don't you share them on here,
Gunning County Down,Kneale Isle of Man,Riddle Tynemouth,Bibby Kendal/Bradford,Colenso Penzance/Barrow-in-Furness,Steele Corney Fell,Chapman Ely,Dawes Alfreton,Blamire Westmoreland and Ulverston
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Re: looking for what happened to 2 Graham girls last seen in North Shields 1911
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 10 December 22 21:28 GMT (UK) »
have you eliminated the other marriage
at St Dominic Newcastle
Maria Nora Graham
spouse Joseph Couper Chalmers
father Patrick mother Catherine Coleman
10th October 1927


The marriage registration is Tynemouth December 1927 on free BMD. James C Chalmers and Mary N gRAHAM
Gunning County Down,Kneale Isle of Man,Riddle Tynemouth,Bibby Kendal/Bradford,Colenso Penzance/Barrow-in-Furness,Steele Corney Fell,Chapman Ely,Dawes Alfreton,Blamire Westmoreland and Ulverston
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Re: looking for what happened to 2 Graham girls last seen in North Shields 1911
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 10 December 22 23:18 GMT (UK) »


The couple who married in 1957......were they young?...middle aged?...what sort of age (not exact).

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Re: looking for what happened to 2 Graham girls last seen in North Shields 1911
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 11 December 22 05:31 GMT (UK) »
What is Norahs birthday?

1939 Register has a married Norah Collins in Yorkshire born 1 Nov 1899.
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