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Re: looking for what happened to 2 Graham girls last seen in North Shields 1911
« Reply #18 on: Sunday 11 December 22 14:41 GMT (UK) »
Mary Norah Chalmers aged 30 at death mother Coleman
1930 Burntisland Scotland

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died of generalised tb, 4.30pm 9th May 1930. Married to James Cowper Chalmers (Grave digger).
Parents Patrick Graham occ  general labourer, mother Catherine nee' Coleman, address 23, High St, Burnisland. James C present at death.

If this is your lady, her and James had 2 children born Burntisland, male 1930, female 1928.

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Re: looking for what happened to 2 Graham girls last seen in North Shields 1911
« Reply #19 on: Sunday 11 December 22 15:18 GMT (UK) »
Dundee Evening Telegraph 13 December 1932
For driving without a license and without a third party insurance policy on 17th October, on the Burntisland-Kinghorn Road, James Cowper Chalmers, labourer, 20 Kirkgate, Burntisland, was fined 15s on each charge.

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Re: looking for what happened to 2 Graham girls last seen in North Shields 1911
« Reply #20 on: Sunday 11 December 22 15:28 GMT (UK) »
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and one in 1957 where she is a witness at a wedding ( Don't want to give details  about the wedding as living persons are involved).

Is she still Catherine Graham in 1957?

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Re: looking for what happened to 2 Graham girls last seen in North Shields 1911
« Reply #21 on: Sunday 11 December 22 16:03 GMT (UK) »
The 2 children born to James Cowper Chalmers & Mary Norah were

Mary 1928, sadly died aged 1hour 30 mins in 1928, son Thomas 1930 died aged 61 in 1992 Kirkcaldy.

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Re: looking for what happened to 2 Graham girls last seen in North Shields 1911
« Reply #22 on: Sunday 11 December 22 16:12 GMT (UK) »
Mary Norah Chalmers aged 30 at death mother Coleman
1930 Burntisland Scotland

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died of generalised tb, 4.30pm 9th May 1930. Married to James Cowper Chalmers (Grave digger).
Parents Patrick Graham occ  general labourer, mother Catherine nee' Coleman, address 23, High St, Burnisland. James C present at death.

If this is your lady, her and James had 2 children born Burntisland, male 1930, female 1928.

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Thanks yes the details match
I have already ordered the marriage certificate but looks almost certain this is she.
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Re: looking for what happened to 2 Graham girls last seen in North Shields 1911
« Reply #23 on: Sunday 11 December 22 16:19 GMT (UK) »
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and one in 1957 where she is a witness at a wedding ( Don't want to give details  about the wedding as living persons are involved).

Is she still Catherine Graham in 1957?

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Yes she is. In 1948 the grave purchase record has her as a spinster and in 1957 she would have been 56 years old.
Her mother’s death certificate (1947) has Catherine as informant and an address for the informant  in Troon.
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Re: looking for what happened to 2 Graham girls last seen in North Shields 1911
« Reply #24 on: Sunday 11 December 22 16:37 GMT (UK) »
Sorry to ask another question, is this the death reg of mother. Her dob is either 23/2/1872 or 27/2/1872

Deaths Jun 1947   
Graham    Catherine    73    Nthmbld.S.    1b   345   

Have you found her in 1939 war register.

Added, does the surname Niven ring any bells.

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Re: looking for what happened to 2 Graham girls last seen in North Shields 1911
« Reply #25 on: Sunday 11 December 22 16:49 GMT (UK) »
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and one in 1957 where she is a witness at a wedding ( Don't want to give details  about the wedding as living persons are involved).

Is she still Catherine Graham in 1957?

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Yes she is. In 1948 the grave purchase record has her as a spinster and in 1957 she would have been 56 years old.
Her mother’s death certificate (1947) has Catherine as informant and an address for the informant  in Troon.

Could Catherine have stayed in Troon? Have you checked Electoral Registers for that area?

There's this death entry on SP but doesn't give mmn

Graham Catherine age 82 F 1982  674 / 19 TROON
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Re: looking for what happened to 2 Graham girls last seen in North Shields 1911
« Reply #26 on: Sunday 11 December 22 16:57 GMT (UK) »
Sorry to ask another question, is this the death reg of mother. Her dob is either 23/2/1872 or 27/2/1872

Deaths Jun 1947   
Graham    Catherine    73    Nthmbld.S.    1b   345   

Have you found her in 1939 war register.

Added, does the surname ??? ??? Niven ring any bells.

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I think so yes.
 She was buried Wallsend in 1947 in the same place as Patrick and in 1948 daughter Catherine purchased the plot.
I researched intensively on that previously  and some contributors on roots chat helped. with  it.
I have not found her  1939 but if she was in Scotland it wouldn’t  show.
Niven…. I don’t recognise it immediately
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