Amis Family Norfolk

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The Charles Amis son of Thomas and Elizabeth was born Bradwell NOT Hanworth

He did marry Susannah Jefferies 8 November 1837 with father named Thomas and witnesses
Thomas Amis and Emily Amis

None could write

They can be traced using the census and are together in Bradwell Suffolk 1871

So not your Charles

Their first child George was baptized Bradwell Suffolk 26 May 1839

Registered Mutford and Lothingland 1839 AMOS George  mmn Jefferies
Ref: GRO Index

Bradwell is described as both in Norfolk and Suffolk so the county line must cross.

Other children
Maria 1841, Thomas 1843, Charlotte 1847.

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**Mary Ann Amys was buried Hanworth 28 April 1848

GRO Index age 42 registered Erpingham


Charles then marries Frances Slapp in 1853 at Guist.

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Children of Charles Amys and Mary Ann nee Chapman

Mary Ann Chapman Amis, bap. 6 May 1832 at Thurgarton Norfolk

Esther Ames, bap. 2 February 1834 at Aldborough Norfolk

James Robert Amos, bap.16 May 1841 at Hanworth  (see reply by Wivenhoe)

John Henry Amos, bap. 24 March 1844 at Bassingham

[wivenhoe]

Is your interest in this family through one of the children listed on the 1861 England Census?.   

Which son or daughter?

[trish1120]

I agree with amondg.


Charles likely the illeg son of Frances and bapt 1805

St Bartholomew, Handworth

FRANCES Amis Bapt 27 Feb 1777 to ROBERT/FRANCES
Buried 17 Dec 1854 age 79 (c 1775)
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FRANCES Amies buried 25 Aug 1819 age 63 (c 1756)
ROBERT AMYS buried 12 Aug 1837 age 91 (1746)

Robert AMIS married Frances HOWARD 01 Jul 1776
Bachelor/Spinster
Witnesses   Mary AMIS/Rich ELLIS

Children were;
FRANCES 1777
MARY 1779
AMY/ANN 1788 (no date of birth given or if twins)

All on FreeREG


The Death Cert of Frances may have her son Charles a the informant;
AMIS, FRANCES 79 
GRO Reference: 1854  D Quarter in ERPINGHAM  Volume 04B  Page 52

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Thank you all so much for your help!! Him being the illegitimate son makes a lot more sense and so does him marrying Mary Chapman rather than Susannah Jeffries.
wivenhoe: my interest was through Mary Ann Amis; the 1 year old daughter on the 1861 census
Thanks again, 
Sorry for asking another question, but just wondering if whilst anyone was looking found a baptism for the James Amis living nextdoor to Charles and his family or just any way to link him to Charles biologically? 

[wivenhoe]

Is this your Esther AMIS....with ongoing association with long-lived  aunt Mary AMIS?   

Ancestry Census England
1851 at Dairy Farm Aldborough Norfolk
BROOKE James     60y   wdr     175 acres  6 lab.       b. Suffield Norfolk
AMIS Mary            52y   U        housekeeper             b. Hanworth Norfolk
BROOKE Sarah      80y   U        sister                        b. Hanworth Norfolk
SPENDLOVE Elizabeth     17y    servant                     b. Gresham Norfolk
WILLIAMSON James        23y    farm servant            b. Calthorpe Norfolk
BLYTH George                 17y    farm servant            b. Alby Norfolk


1861 at Barningham Norfolk
COOPER William       35y       ag. lab.          b. Barningham Winter Norfolk
COOPER Esther        2*y     wi                    b. Aldborough             Norfolk
COOPER Thomas        5y     son                  b. Barningham Winter Norfolk
COOPER Harriet          1y    dau                  b. Barningham            Norfolk
COOPER Sarah          72y  W   mother         b. Plumstead              Norfolk

next family listed

BROOKE James         75y  W   farmer 7 acres 1 man    b. Suffield Norfolk
AMIS Mary                63y  U    housekeeper                b. Hanworth
AMIS Mary                20y  U    visitor                         b. Hanworth Norfolk               

1871 at Bessingham Norfolk
AMIS Mary        head      w(idow)  farmer emp 1 man               b. Hanworth Norfolk
COOPER William     44y    farming bail**                                  b. Barningham Winter Norfolk
COOPER Esther      37y                                                           b. Aldborough Norfolk
COOPER Thomas    16y   carp. apprentice                                 b. Barningham Winter Norfolk
COOPER Harriet      11y                                                           b. Bessingham Norfolk
COOPER Charles       8y                                                           b. Bessingham Norfolk
COOPER Herbert       4y                                                           b. Bessingham Norfolk

1881 at Horse Shoes Barningham  Norfolk#
AMIS Mary           head    UM     85y                                        b. Hanworth Norfolk
                           space left here
COOPER William       53y       labourer                                      b. Barningham Winter Norfolk
COOPER Esther         47y                                                        b. Aldborough Norfolk
COOPER Thomas James   26y   UM  carpenter                           b. Barningham Winter Norfolk
COOPER Harriet Matilda   21y   UM                                           b. Bessingham Norfolk
COOPER Charles Walter    18y  UM  labourer                             b. Bessingham Norfolk
COOPER Henry Herbert     15y  UM                                           b. Bessingham Norfolk 

1891 at  Bessingham Norfolk
COOPER William           67y  farmer                                         b. Town Barningham Norfolk
COOPER Esther             60y                                                    b. Alborough Norfolk
COOPER William J          37y   S   carpenter                              b. Town Barningham Norfolk   
COOPER Charles W        28y   S   farm lab.                               b. Bessingham Norfolk
AMIS Mary                    95y   S   retired farmer                        b. Hanworth Norfolk
TICE Eliza A                  28y   S   servant                                 b. Sustead Norfolk. 

Ancestry Norfolk BDM
8 Oct 1851  Parish Church Aldborough Norfolk
AMIS Esther    19y   spinster    residence Aldborough
Father: AMIS Charles  labourer

COOPER William   26y  bachelor  farmer residence: Town Barningham (X)
Father:  Thomas COOPER   farmer

Witnesses Robert WARD (X)  Susan FARMER (X)

                           Is this the marriage for your ancestor Mary AMIS?

21 Dec 1850  Parish Church Thurgarton Norfolk
AMIS Mary Ann    19y  spinster  residence: Thurgarton
Father: Charles AMIS gardener

COLEMAN George   full age  bachelor  residence: Thurgarton (X)
Father: Matthew COLEMAN   labourer
Witnesses   James HOVELL  Esther AMIS

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South Repps St. James baptism register

James Amis born 15 May 1802 bap. 23 May 1802 mother Frances Amis - no father listed

Ref: FreeReg

I would conclude they share the same mother

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Hi wivenhoe, this looks like it could be Esther thank you for finding all that information! Just wondering, how did you know that Mary Amis was her aunt, would that mean she's the older sister of Charles Amis + illegitimate daughter of Frances?

Also, re the marriage of Mary Amis and George Coleman; do you mean the Mary Amis that is the daughter of Mary Chapman + Charles Amis b.1833? If so that looks like it's probably correct so thank you! But if you mean my ancestor Mary Amis; she is the daughter of Charles Amis + Frances Slapp and was born in 1860 and so couldn't be her (she married Thomas Fletcher). But looks like it's the other Mary so thank you!

Also, thank you amondg for finding that baptism for James!