Jane Williams nee Rowland @1780-1850 Amlwch

[iansum77]

Melin adda and pentrefelin are one and the same, a large mill with severel millers working there.
Robert was miller there in 1841 c
Samuel was there in 1851c

Elizabeth eldest son james(17 in 1851) was also listed as being a miller in 1851 census.

[iansum77]

i have just found 1861 c for robert still living in same area as a miller but has his birth year as 1802 so maybe more correct than the 1841 c .

there seems to be no 1851 c record for llaethdy??

[Gadget]

That's why I drew attention to the 2 melins mentioned on the maps.    Pentrefelin would have been the area as far as I can work out.  There are quite a few Pentrefelins in Wales

I do have a fairly reasonable knowledge of Welsh as I'm Welsh born and  lived in Denbighshire  until I was 18 so I  studied it in school and many of my relatives had it as a first language. I used to visit regularly until covid came along.

Ancestry is getting better for Welsh records but Find my Past and Family Search are better if you can't get to records offices.

There were quite a few areas that are missing from the 1861 collection. I'll check the listing of missing pieces.

[Gadget]

I've just checked ~

https://www.findmypast.co.uk/articles/census-for-england-wales-and-scotland-missing-pieces

You have to scroll down the listings to the relevant census.

Anglesey doesn't seem to be listed in 1861 but it could be that they are only partially missing.

[Gadget]

These are the districts in Amlwch that are listed for 1861:

    District [7b] 
    District 1 
    District 10c 
    District 11c 
    District 12b 
    District 13 
    District 2e 
    District 3c 
    District 4c 
    District 5b 
    District 6 
    District 7 
    District 8b 
    District 9c 

[iansum77]

its the 1851 c that i cant find llaethdy or pentrefelin.
I also grew up in Wales but have not lived there since 1986. My welsh is not as good as it should be, went to welsh school till i was 10!!
where do you live now?
i am living in Norway for the last 3 years.
On robert 1861 c he has a nephew as millers assistant joseph(16) this is a new person for my tree and only baptism that fits i can find has father as thomas mother Mary in Llechylched,

[Gadget]

I had a look at the FindMyPast listing but nothing seems to be missing from your area in 1851

These are the EDs that are listed for 1851 for Amlwch

    District 3a
    District 3b
    District 3c
    District 3d
    District 3e
    District 3f
    District 3g
    District 3h
    District 3i
    District 3j
    District 3k
    District 3l

I'll have a look later.

I live quite close to you - Newcastle on Tyne 

Nadolig Llawen i chi

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[Gadget]

I see that  your Griffith had moved to Llangeinwen by 1851 and recorded as a Miller. In 1861 he's described as a Miller and farmer of 10 acres

Looking at Robert's record and the pages around, I think that Laethdy has been included in ED 5b as Pentrefelin.  Should any other of your relatives be in that area in 1851?

[iansum77]

I live right in the north of norway, near the border with russia so you are a long way from me.

Nadolig Llawen i chi hefyd.