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Offline Jill Eaton

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Who was Sarah Ellen Dilley?
« on: Tuesday 20 December 22 12:29 GMT (UK) »
Can anyone find out the back story for Sarah Ellen Dilley?

I can find her on the 1939 record in St Pancras, London. Born 25th July 1893
She has a son called James Dilley. The record says "married"

There is a death certificate for Sarah Ellen Dilley Oct 1973 which gives her birth as 20th August 1893. It may or may not be the same woman.

She is on various electoral registers in the late 1929's/early 1930s in Islington with a Sidney Dilley.

I can't find a marriage for her or a birth register for her son James.

I would like to know whether she did actually marry, who she married and whether her son was born under the surname Dilley or another name.

Any help, advice or guidance would be very much appreciated.
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Jill
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Re: Who was Sarah Ellen Dilley?
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 20 December 22 13:06 GMT (UK) »
When was James Dilley born?

Can you tell us your interest in her - are you descended from her son or one of her siblings?

Have you looked for her on the 1921 census?

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Re: Who was Sarah Ellen Dilley?
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 20 December 22 13:40 GMT (UK) »
When was James Dilley born?

Can you tell us your interest in her - are you descended from her son or one of her siblings?

Have you looked for her on the 1921 census?

My husband is the grandson of Sidney Dilley. Sid married Elsie Eaton in 1935 but there is a family legend that another woman turned up at his funeral.
Our Sid effectively disappears after the 1911 census and turns up again on the various electoral registers for Islington in the 1930's. I can't find him on the 1921 census at all.

It's possible that the Sidney Dilley in the late 1929's at the same address as Sarah Ellen is my husband's grandfather but I can't find out how Sarah Ellen is connected to this Sid.

Amended to read: James Dilley was, according to the 1939 census, born on 23 Apr 1920
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Re: Who was Sarah Ellen Dilley?
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 20 December 22 13:56 GMT (UK) »
Were Sidney's parents Alfred Dilley and Alice Maud Barber?
Berks / Oxon: Eltham, Annetts, Wiltshire (surname not county), Hawkins, Pembroke, Partridge
Dorset / Hants: Derham, Stride, Purkiss, Sibley
Yorkshire: Pottage, Carr, Blackburn, Depledge
Sussex: Goodyer, Christopher, Trevatt
Lanark: Scott (soldier went to Jersey CI)
Jersey: Fowler, Huelin, Scott


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Re: Who was Sarah Ellen Dilley?
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 20 December 22 14:04 GMT (UK) »
Were Sidney's parents Alfred Dilley and Alice Maud Barber?

His parents were Robert Dilley and Mary Jane Green. However, there were many Dilleys in Islington - many born in St Neots near Huntingdon.
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Sutcliffe - Yorkshire & London
Harrington - Ireland and London
Fuller - Cambridgeshire and Essex
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Frisby and Lee - Leicestershire
Hollingsworth - Essex
Williams - Ireland? and London
Ellis, Reed & Temple - London
Lane - ?
Surplice/Surplus - Cambridgeshire
Elwood - Cambridgeshire

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Re: Who was Sarah Ellen Dilley?
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 20 December 22 14:12 GMT (UK) »
was Sidney born in 1892 ? If so  would be similar age to Sarah Ellen. Could she be his sister in law?
Berks / Oxon: Eltham, Annetts, Wiltshire (surname not county), Hawkins, Pembroke, Partridge
Dorset / Hants: Derham, Stride, Purkiss, Sibley
Yorkshire: Pottage, Carr, Blackburn, Depledge
Sussex: Goodyer, Christopher, Trevatt
Lanark: Scott (soldier went to Jersey CI)
Jersey: Fowler, Huelin, Scott

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Re: Who was Sarah Ellen Dilley?
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 20 December 22 15:24 GMT (UK) »
It looks as if Sidney's only brother who survived to adulthood was also called Robert (Robert Dilley Green) and also married a lady with surname Green. It's looking more as if Sidney lived with Sarah Ellen and fathered James, but then left her to marry Elsie in 1935.
Still no sign of Sidney in 1921.
Berks / Oxon: Eltham, Annetts, Wiltshire (surname not county), Hawkins, Pembroke, Partridge
Dorset / Hants: Derham, Stride, Purkiss, Sibley
Yorkshire: Pottage, Carr, Blackburn, Depledge
Sussex: Goodyer, Christopher, Trevatt
Lanark: Scott (soldier went to Jersey CI)
Jersey: Fowler, Huelin, Scott

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Re: Who was Sarah Ellen Dilley?
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 20 December 22 21:51 GMT (UK) »
There is a newspaper snippet - January 1913 Islington Gazette

Sidney Dilley, 20 yrs charged with stealing from his employer.
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Re: Who was Sarah Ellen Dilley?
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 20 December 22 22:23 GMT (UK) »
James Dilley b 13.4.1920 died Dec 1984 Bromley Kent so he retained the surname Dilley.  No probate entry found
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