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Betsy & John Harold Terry
« on: Wednesday 21 December 22 23:04 GMT (UK) »
Frederick Harold Terry b: Herne Hill 1899 son of Frederick William Terry emigrated two Revelstoke Canada in 1903. He joined the the Army fibbing about his age and eventually arrived in France in 1917 - not for long he sprained his ankle and was back in England. He married Betsy Jones b: 1899 in 1919 said she was from Brighton and in an Industrial School in 1911. Fredericks army papers are long and confusing but he was also called Jack and that is the name he used when the married her. He continued to call himself John H Terry and was posted back to Canada in 1920. He gave his address as Detroit USA but I can find no evidence of him actually living there. Betsy arrived in Canada with a 2 1/2 year old son George in 1920. After this I cannot find either of them although I found a George Terry died in 1924 no age given in Montreal. John arrived in USA in the early 1950's and married a woman called Alice Marie Chone in West Palm Beach Floida in 1951. My query is what happened to Betsy and George? I can find no trace of her in Canada I would be most grateful if anyone can find more than I have on her, I do know quite a bit about Frederick/John/Jack and his family - he and his wife died in the 1980's in Florida. One clue is that on a border crossing he gives the name of Harry Jones and I wondered if there was a connection to Betsy but I can't see what it is as he's from Pennsylvania. Thanks for listening  :) :)
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Re: Betsy & John Harold Terry
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 22 December 22 08:35 GMT (UK) »
George Terry who died in 1924 Montreal - was a 59 year old man, so not your little George.

The Gazette Montreal, Quebec, Canada
21 Jan 1924, Mon  •  Page 4

https://www.newspapers.com/clip/115002956/the-gazette/

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Re: Betsy & John Harold Terry
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 22 December 22 09:50 GMT (UK) »
Thank you Sandra - Merry Christmas  :)
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Re: Betsy & John Harold Terry
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 22 December 22 09:52 GMT (UK) »
Nothing yet on Betsy and George  :-\

Merry Christmas to you and your.
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Re: Betsy & John Harold Terry
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 22 December 22 09:56 GMT (UK) »
Is little George technically a Jones?  He would have been born 1917 or 1918, and Betsy didn't marry John/Fred/etc until 1919?   I'm just wondering if Betsy came to Canada, and hubby was no where to be found, perhaps she went back to England and went back to Jones?

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Re: Betsy & John Harold Terry
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 22 December 22 10:00 GMT (UK) »
Sandra, there is an obit for Fred/John/etc's father that apparently mentions a son, Fred.

Are you able to see this:
Name:    Frederick William Terry
Gender:    Male
Death Age:    83
Birth Date:    abt 1872
Birth Place:    England
Residence Place:    West Fourteenth
Death Date:    Abt 1955
Obituary Date:    16 Mar 1955
Obituary Place:    Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada
Newspaper Title:    The Vancouver News-Herald
Spouse:    Alice
Child:    Dorothy Harding
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Re: Betsy & John Harold Terry
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 22 December 22 10:01 GMT (UK) »
If Betsy arrived in Canada 1920 & George was 2 & a half - he was born before the marriage & would have the surname Jones.

EDIT - sorry - didn’t see reply 4 which has made the same point
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Re: Betsy & John Harold Terry
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 22 December 22 10:10 GMT (UK) »
Yes, here they are :-  (I thik they were in Toronto in 1921 - sorry have to go out)

The Vancouver Sun
Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada
15 Mar 1955, Tue  •  Page 30

https://www.newspapers.com/clip/115003822/the-vancouver-sun/

The Vancouver News-Herald
Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada
16 Mar 1955, Wed  •  Page 13

https://www.newspapers.com/clip/115003839/the-vancouver-news-herald/

marriage - https://search-collections.royalbcmuseum.bc.ca/Image/Genealogy/49b4fb29-3e05-4096-bd03-14de48fd14f3

Death certificate - https://search-collections.royalbcmuseum.bc.ca/Image/Genealogy/637d6be4-faed-482c-8ba5-7a26502345f7

Informant daughter Dorothy Harding.

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Re: Betsy & John Harold Terry
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 22 December 22 10:12 GMT (UK) »


1921 2 Sundle Ave York Townshiop

Frederick Terry 43   Head
Alice Terry 42   Wife
Frederick Terry   23   Son

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