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Past landlords of The Crooked Billet, Saxton. Late 19thC?
« on: Thursday 22 December 22 23:25 GMT (UK) »
Hi, Everyone,
I was wondering whether there is anyone who has details of past landlords (or landladies) at The Crooked Billet pub in Saxton.  I am led to understand that a Tom or Thomas LAWN was such a person in the late 19thC.
Any help with this would be much appreciated...
Keith

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Re: Past landlords of The Crooked Billet, Saxton. Late 19thC?
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 22 December 22 23:38 GMT (UK) »
A couple of earlier notices:

A Thomas CLARKSON died at the Crooked Billet Saxton, "the house of his daughter" on 30 Nov 1847.

A marriage notice for Ann WEBSTER (to Samuel WARRINGTON), daughter of "Mrs Frances WEBSTER, landlady of the Crooked Billet Inn, Saxton" in May 1848.

Will keep looking ...

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Re: Past landlords of The Crooked Billet, Saxton. Late 19thC?
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 22 December 22 23:50 GMT (UK) »
In 1891 There was a Lawn Family at the pub but no Tom/Thomas.

Edward 46 Licensed victualler and joiner
Ann 40
Children
William J 17 Joiner apprentice
Henry 14 ag lab
Bertha 12
Minnie 8
Mabel 5
Dorothy 2
Bryan 1

Added
Just found Thomas. He was there in 1861
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Re: Past landlords of The Crooked Billet, Saxton. Late 19thC?
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 22 December 22 23:56 GMT (UK) »
Maddys52 and Fisherman,
Thanks so much for getting on my case so swiftly!
That 1891 Census page looks just the ticket.  Maybe I've been fed slightly erroneous info about the landlord's forename, or maybe he was known more commonly by another one.  As was often the case.
In July 2021 I had a very nice pint and a meal in this pub, but not with  this  particular question to ask then...
Keith

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Re: Past landlords of The Crooked Billet, Saxton. Late 19thC?
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 22 December 22 23:58 GMT (UK) »
Thomas 34 Farmer and publican
Jane 29 publicans wife
Charlotte 3
William 2
Henry 0
Sockett in Shropshire, Montgomeryshire, Herefordshire, Monmouthshire, Glamorgan and probably the rest of the UK
Corbet/t in Shropshire, Norfolk, Worcestershire
Gambold in South West Wales, USA, Australia
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Re: Past landlords of The Crooked Billet, Saxton. Late 19thC?
« Reply #5 on: Friday 23 December 22 00:04 GMT (UK) »
Fisherman,
Posts crossed in the ether.  How very exciting, looks as though the pub was run by the LAWN family for a considerable time...
Keith

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Re: Past landlords of The Crooked Billet, Saxton. Late 19thC?
« Reply #6 on: Friday 23 December 22 00:11 GMT (UK) »
Hi Keith

Charlotte Married a Job Bailey and  they were running the pub in 1881

Also there
Joseph Thomas Bailey son 0
Alice Lawn Sister in law Dom Serv  14
Thomas Lawn Brother in law 12
Plus two lodgers

Added: Charlotte and Job married 4Q 1878  (9c  1065)
Sockett in Shropshire, Montgomeryshire, Herefordshire, Monmouthshire, Glamorgan and probably the rest of the UK
Corbet/t in Shropshire, Norfolk, Worcestershire
Gambold in South West Wales, USA, Australia
Baylis/s in Gloucestershire, South Wales
Richards in Breconshire
Manthorpe in Shropshire, Norfolk, Cheshire, Suffolk

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Re: Past landlords of The Crooked Billet, Saxton. Late 19thC?
« Reply #7 on: Friday 23 December 22 00:18 GMT (UK) »
Not quite sure what to make of this - in this item it says the Crooked Billet Saxton was pulled down approx 2 years previously (so 1882).
Saturday,  Dec. 20, 1884
Publication: Leeds Mercury

" L. N. and Q." refers to "Local Notes and Queries", the heading of the page.

Oh, I can't attach the image here. It is about a slip of paper, a butcher's bill, which was found in a crack of a large beam at the inn.

Modified to add:
Actually reading the article again it says a new building has replaced the old one.

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Re: Past landlords of The Crooked Billet, Saxton. Late 19thC?
« Reply #8 on: Friday 23 December 22 00:23 GMT (UK) »
Gosh, Maddys52, that's a bit offputting!  Maybe they just made alterations or renovations/refurbishments at that time, and  perhaps that was when the old document was found.
I've had a look at the 1871 Census, and Thomas LAWN was still running The Crooked Billet then...
Keith
Ah, another crossed post, thanks so much for that new (to me) info about a new pub being built on the site.
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