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Cap badge Identification
« on: Saturday 31 December 22 13:05 GMT (UK) »
I wonder if anyone can help me please.

I have attached a picture.  My friend thinks his father served in the ROAC but from the photo I don’t think the troops are wearing an RAOC cap badge.  His father was born in 1928.  My friend remembers his dad telling him stories of serving in West Germany dismantling German armaments factories or facilities in @1946? Dates confusing. His father once was based or did basic training in Nottingham.

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Re: Cap badge Identification
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 31 December 22 14:06 GMT (UK) »
It is very difficult to tell from the photograph but the shape certainly looks to me like a WW2 RAOC cap  badge .
CHOULES All ,  COKER Harwich Essex & Rochester Kent 
COLE Gt. Oakley, & Lt. Oakley, Essex.
DUNCAN Kent
EVERITT Colchester,  Dovercourt & Harwich Essex
GULLIVER/GULLOFER Fifehead Magdalen Dorset
HORSCROFT Kent.
KING Sturminster Newton, Dorset. MONK Odiham Ham.
SCOTT Wrabness, Essex
WILKINS Stour Provost, Dorset.
WICKHAM All in North Essex.
WICKHAM Medway Towns, Kent from 1880
WICKHAM, Ipswich, Suffolk.

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Re: Cap badge Identification
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 31 December 22 14:15 GMT (UK) »
Furthermore, the flaming grenade badge some of them are wearing above their stripes signifies that they are ammunition technicians - exactly the trade I would expect to be involved in dismantling munitions facilities. The Nottinghamshire base may well have been Chilwell, where many ATs were trained. Today the site is known as Chetwynd barracks.

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Re: Cap badge Identification
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 31 December 22 14:18 GMT (UK) »
Furthermore, the flaming grenade badge some of them are wearing above their stripes signifies that they are ammunition technicians - exactly the trade I would expect to be involved in dismantling munitions facilities. The Nottinghamshire base may well have been Chilwell, where many ATs were trained. Today the site is known as Chetwynd barracks.

Andy 22

Thanks for the update, so far he was more than likely in the RAOC and Ammo Techs.

Well we are chipping away.

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« Reply #4 on: Saturday 31 December 22 15:04 GMT (UK) »
Just as a bit of trivia, Ammunition Technician was/is a T band trade, that is to say after their basic military training, ATs undergo much longer training in their trade than other soldiers and usually require better educational qualifications. As a result they get paid more, and generally get promoted in line with their trade rating, so a T3 tech would automatically become a lance corporal straight out of training, a T2 Tech would be a full corporal and the T1 tradesman would be a sergeant. This seems to accord with the relative youth of some of the soldiers in the photo, although not all of them are necessarily ATs.  More on the current day role of ATs here: https://apply.army.mod.uk/roles/royal-logistic-corps/ammunition-technician

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Re: Cap badge Identification
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 31 December 22 15:25 GMT (UK) »
Just as a bit of trivia, Ammunition Technician was/is a T band trade, that is to say after their basic military training, ATs undergo much longer training in their trade than other soldiers and usually require better educational qualifications. As a result they get paid more, and generally get promoted in line with their trade rating, so a T3 tech would automatically become a lance corporal straight out of training, a T2 Tech would be a full corporal and the T1 tradesman would be a sergeant. This seems to accord with the relative youth of some of the soldiers in the photo, although not all of them are necessarily ATs.  More on the current day role of ATs here: https://apply.army.mod.uk/roles/royal-logistic-corps/ammunition-technician

Andy,
Thank you for the background information, yes it will make sense due the young looking SNCO,s in the picture

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Re: Cap badge Identification
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 31 December 22 16:08 GMT (UK) »
Furthermore, the flaming grenade badge some of them are wearing above their stripes signifies that they are ammunition technicians - exactly the trade I would expect to be involved in dismantling munitions facilities. The Nottinghamshire base may well have been Chilwell, where many ATs were trained. Today the site is known as Chetwynd barracks.

Andy,

Thanks for the picture.

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