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Toners Dublin
« on: Saturday 31 December 22 14:33 GMT (UK) »
Hoping someone can help. My dad was born a Toner living with his family at 42 Donore Avenue Dublin. He ran away to Manchester England changed his name to Tonay. And would never talk about his family. He told me about the address and it stuck in my mind. Through DNA I have connected to a 4th cousin but the only thing she knows is the address is correct for the family. My dad was born in 1924. He said he had brothers and sisters Mona, Pauline, and a brother Desie. I have some photographs that we found when he passed away but nobody knows who they are.

Here's hoping Donna 

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Re: Toners Dublin
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 31 December 22 18:02 GMT (UK) »
Welcome to Rootschat

I see you posted on this thread way back in 2004

https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=7424.45  Reply 46 refers

His 2000 death reg shows his birthdate as 20.4.1924

What name does he show for his father on his 1957 marriage cert?

What was his marital status on that cert given he was 33yrs at that time & his wife was previously married

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Carlin (Ireland & Liverpool) Doughty & Wright (Liverpool) Dick & Park (Scotland & Liverpool)

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Re: Toners Dublin
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 31 December 22 19:24 GMT (UK) »
You could try searching these indexes https://www.familysearch.org/search/collection/1408347

You don’t give your father’s name.

1924 birth (the only one I can see for a male birth) - Patrick Francis Toner, Dublin North
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:F19M-HPR

There is a Pauline in 1925 but that birth is Dublin South.
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Re: Toners Dublin
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 31 December 22 22:38 GMT (UK) »
Per 2000 death reg - christian names were Anthony Donald Patrick.  If he changed his surname he may have rearranged his christian names (ie) used them in a different order
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Re: Toners Dublin
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 01 January 23 05:15 GMT (UK) »
Through DNA I have connected to a 4th cousin but the only thing she knows is the address is correct for the family.

Who are this cousin's most recent deceased ancestors?  Who does she know who was living at that address?

Debra  :D

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Re: Toners Dublin
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 01 January 23 05:31 GMT (UK) »

"He ran away to Manchester England changed his name to Tonay."
How did you come by this piece of information?

"And would never talk about his family."
By this do you mean that he did not volunteer information?......there was an awkward silence when anyone mentioned his family?


"He told me about the address and it stuck in my mind."
When and in what context did he tell you the address?

Do you know where he comes in birth order in his family?



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Re: Toners Dublin
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 01 January 23 05:36 GMT (UK) »


Where and when did your father marry?

Can you list all the information on the marriage certificate.

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Re: Toners Dublin
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 01 January 23 05:37 GMT (UK) »
A William Toner 43 Donore Ave died in 1958 aged 76
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1958/04378/4137269.pdf
Could you have the house number incorrect.

Looking in the newspapers this man's wife was Ellen and he's buried in Mount Jerome. He had sons daughters and sisters.

It appears when this William's wife Ellen died in 1945 they were living at 3 South Summer St. so may be a family with the same surname ended up next door to your family.

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Re: Toners Dublin
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 01 January 23 07:47 GMT (UK) »
1982 Mary (Mona) Toner Donore Ave deeply regretted by her loving brother and sister.
Also to Mount Jerome.