Toners Dublin

[Sinann]

1981 Desmond Toner Donore Ave son of the late William and Ellen.
regretted by brother and sisters
also to Mount Jerome.

[heywood]

Great finds, Sinann 

I saw a few newspaper snippets - I think - advertising rooms to let at 43 Donore Avenue but they only say ‘apply Toner’ so you have solved my searches.

[Sinann]

There is a headstone for William and Ellen
http://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ire/dublin/photos/tombstones/1mj/mt-jerome-182/target124.html
Hard to read but there is a transcript here
https://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ire/dublin/photos/tombstones/1mj/mt-jerome182.htm

but I was hoping to find Desmond and Mona to maybe get their ages but no joy so far

[Sinann]

There are a few small ads for the 3 South Summer St address as well
including one in 1924 by Wm Toner for a house to let in Knockrow Delgany Wicklow
Wonder could there be a family connection to Wicklow.

[heywood]

These records seem to show that there are children older than those born around 1920s 
Ellen’s death certificate mentions Patricia Toner.
Marriage 1935
William Toner and Patricia. The address fits - South Summer Street
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1935/08945/5237710.pdf

William Snr’s  occupation is a Carrier. This might be 1911
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Dublin/Merchant_s_Quay/Summer_St_/70706/

William, b Wicklow and a Carrier.

William jnr birth - father a Carman
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1910/01583/1637232.pdf

These might fit with the ‘horse dealer’ mention.

It would be good to know who Mr Tonay, Manchester, mentions as his father on his marriage.

[sootypea]

Thank you for all your replies. I am afraid what I have written is really all I know. The second cousin doesn't remember him. The problem I have is he had forged documents. On his marriage cert, he has his father as Peter Toner Hoarse trader. The other problem is all that generation has passed away.

[heywood]

You have named those siblings.
Were they older/younger?
Any other information about them?

It is odd that you have that address. When did he live there? Was it when he was a child or an adult? How old was he when he ran away?

[heywood]

Through DNA I have connected to a 4th cousin but the only thing she knows is the address is correct for the family.

Who are this cousin's most recent deceased ancestors?  Who does she know who was living at that address?

Debra 

Have you seen the 4th cousin’s tree?
Who are the Toner ancestors?

[Dundee]

Marriage William TONER and Ellen STAFFORD. 

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1907/10108/5677603.pdf

Births with mother's maiden surname STAFFORD up to 1921.

William 1910

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1910/01583/1637232.pdf

Mary 1912

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1912/01503/1610422.pdf

John 1916

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Peter  1920

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1920/01217/1506160.pdf

Debra