Rebecca Dale

[seasider]

I am looking for more information on Rebecca Dale born Ireland 25 May 1826, died 15 July 1890 Hillsburgh Wellington Ontario. There are a few DNA links to my 2 x Gr. Grandmother and I am thinking that their Fathers could be Brothers. There are trees on Ancestry who are saying that Rebecca's Father was John but they haven't entered anything to support this. Actually mine is one of them, just to see what comes up. I wondered if Rebecca who married John Sowerby had lived in England first? I'm struggling to find any more on her appart from census, marriage and death.
Help appreciated, thanks.

[eileenwilson]

There is a marriage for a Rebecca Dale from Whitby in the then Home District (later part of Ontario County, now the Regional Municipality of Durham) in 1847 to John Sowerby. Fathers were not named in these early clergy returns, but the witnesses were George Lee and Joseph Robson.

Only about 50% of these early district marriage registers have survived, but I'm not seeing another Dale marriage taking place in the Home District that would suggest a link.  Their children, noted in the 1861 Census were Isabella, Jane, John, Albert and Joseph.  These names should reflect the names of the couple's parents. I'm having difficulty finding them in the 1851 census even tho it has survived in the hopes that one of the parents would be listed with them.

[seasider]

Thank you. Yes, this is the same Rebecca Dale married to John Sowerby.
My Grandmother was Esther Dale who came to Lancashire from County Monaghan along with Brother David and sister Sarah. I have their marriage certificates who state that their Father's name was David a Farmer.
I know that Rebecca is connected to them through DNA but I'm not sure where she would lie. Maybe she is another sister who went to Ontario or perhaps their Father's were Brothers?
Do they have certificates in Ontario that I could obtain, like the UK ones that state the Father?

[*Sandra*]

There is this copy of the marriage on family search:-

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q2C1-LKH7

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CS76-HZNQ?i=184&cc=2569151

and a pedigree file.

https://www.familysearch.org/tree/person/sources/2S6Y-1C4

Sandra

[eileenwilson]

Although there are some torn pages in the 1851 personal census, in the agricultural census, there is a John M. Dale (indexed as Dall) on Lot 15, Concession 4.  One of the witnesses to Rebecca's wedding was a Joseph Robson who appears on Lot 15, Concession 5.

https://www.ancestry.com/imageviewer/collections/1061/images/e095-e002362659?backlabel=ReturnSearchResults&queryId=4d4d879cf63c596be6409143d7052c0f&pId=145350

George Lee, the other witness, is noted on Lots 7&8, Concession 5:

https://www.ancestry.com/imageviewer/collections/1061/images/e095-e002362671?backlabel=ReturnSearchResults&queryId=dbd2096476783bc629ba1c8f17d153f1&pId=145678

Given the proximity of the three parties, John Dale should be considered as a candidate to be Rebecca's father.

[eileenwilson]

I found the personal entry in the census ... name is McDale/McDole -- not uncommon to drop the "mc"

John, aged 51, born Ireland, farmer, Presbyterian, married
Mary, aged 43, born Ireland, married
Thos, aged 21, born Ireland, labourer
Robert, aged 18, born Ireland, labourer
Sarah, aged 15, born Ireland
Martha, aged 11, born Ireland
Joseph, aged 8, born Ireland
Samuel, aged 2, born Upper Canada

[seasider]

Thank You Eileen. That's interesting, I'll make a note of this family.

[eileenwilson]

This researcher in the area has extensive databases that may be helpful to you.  You have to apply for a userid and password.

https://www.ontariogenealogy.com/ontariogenealogydatabaseform.html

[seasider]

Thank you, I have taken a look and it's interesting.

I have now added the McDale/McDole family to my tree. I am now trying to locate what happened to them after the 1851 census and wondering what surname they chose to use.

John, aged 51, born Ireland, farmer, Presbyterian, married
Mary, aged 43, born Ireland, married
Thos, aged 21, born Ireland, labourer
Robert, aged 18, born Ireland, labourer
Sarah, aged 15, born Ireland
Martha, aged 11, born Ireland
Joseph, aged 8, born Ireland
Samuel, aged 2, born Upper Canada

It's looking like Samuel was the first one born in Canada, making their time of arrival in Canada around 1848/9

Any ideas please