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« Reply #54 on: Saturday 14 January 23 07:24 GMT (UK) »
Here is John too.  All to Mrs Curran.

Father's middle name is given as Thomas, not William

https://content.archives.nsw.gov.au/delivery/StreamGate?dps_pid=FL3019572&dps_dvs=1673680929329~300

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« Reply #55 on: Saturday 14 January 23 07:30 GMT (UK) »
Oh dear and that looks like after the fathers name it says deserted  :(

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« Reply #56 on: Saturday 14 January 23 07:44 GMT (UK) »
Yes.
You have there also an address for Ethel May at that time.
A few more clues to work through anyway.

BTW, I would not take too seriously the statement on Jack's marriage certificate that his father was deceased.

It may have been easier than explaining, or maybe he had lost contact with his father and did not know dead or alive.

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« Reply #57 on: Saturday 14 January 23 07:49 GMT (UK) »
I was just saying that to my partner, perhaps he was not deceased but either “dead” to his son because of the desertion or just didn’t want to explain to his wife or purely didn’t know whatever happened to him. At least they don’t seem to stay in care very long.


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« Reply #58 on: Saturday 14 January 23 09:30 GMT (UK) »


John REYNOLDS, at marriage 1922, and describing his father as deceased, true or not, serves the purpose of giving you reason to believe that mother Ethel is alive at 1922.

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« Reply #59 on: Saturday 14 January 23 10:10 GMT (UK) »
Yes I agree, I think she was alive at that point. I’ve ordered John’s birth certificate so maybe it will give me some more insight into Ethel.

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« Reply #60 on: Sunday 15 January 23 06:09 GMT (UK) »


I wonder if this is the birth of Ethel M SWAN -

NSW BDM birth
10056/1880 SWAN Ethel May parents John /Eliza        @ Bathurst

The birth certificate for Jack SWAN, 1900, will show age and birthplace of mother Ethel, which should assist in identifying her SWAN family.

If Ethel SWAN is having a family with John REYNOLDS, and there is no marriage to find, the most likely reason would be that Ethel SWAN and / or John REYNOLDS are still married to someone else.

We have reason to believe that Ethel M(ay) is alive at 1922. Ethel might be using a name other than SWAN or REYNOLDS, depending on her domestic arrangements after the 1911 departure of John Thomas REYNOLDS, which absence is suggested by the children-in-care records.

Using NSW BDM...deaths.....Ethel M........parents John / Eliza....died 1922 +....in  an inner (Sydney) city location has several possibilities but I am not getting anywhere with this.

By the social conventions of the times, Ethel, in old age, would most likely go to live with an adult daughter.

Burial places of daughters Heba/Eva WILSON and Victoria WARR would be useful as they might also be burial place of mother Ethel M(ay).

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« Reply #61 on: Sunday 15 January 23 07:54 GMT (UK) »
Not a great help, but here is an obituary for the possible mother, Eliza Jane SWAN who died 1932.

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/143136638?searchTerm=%22swan%2C%20eliza%22~12

Death
SWAN Eliza J
8362/1932
Father EDWARD
Mother CATHERINE
At BURWOOD

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« Reply #62 on: Sunday 15 January 23 08:11 GMT (UK) »
I don’t think that’s her in that article but thanks anyway.

I looked at that birth record for Ethel and I think that could be a possibility. Once o get John (jack) birth certificate hopefully I will know more.

I’m not sure if 1 of them was married and that’s why they couldn’t marry or if it was simply because Ethel is suppose to be aboriginal.