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need help with birth/baptism of Evan Jones Pontrydfenligaid abt 1867
« on: Sunday 15 January 23 01:56 GMT (UK) »
Evan Jones' naturalization record in US states birthplace was Pontrydfenligaid, Wales and his birthdate 1867.  His wife's naturalization records state same.  Family letters state he followed his brother David to Canada and US.  His death record lists Thomas Jones and Mary Jones as parents. I have not been able to trace his parents or where Evan Jones lived prior to his marriage to Elizabeth Hughes in Pontypridd, Glamorganshire in 1891.  Family letters say Evan was a twin, twin died at some point and that his father Thomas Jones died before Evan and his twin were born, leaving Mary a widower.  I need help identifying county to search census data--Cardiganshire?  or County of Dyfed at some point?  or just help tracing Evan in general pre marriage.  Thanks for any suggestions. 

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Re: need help with birth/baptism of Evan Jones Pontrydfenligaid abt 1867
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 15 January 23 05:04 GMT (UK) »
There is an Evan Jones registered Tregaron Wales March Quarter 1867 mother's maiden name Jones

Vol.11B page 79

There is also a William Jones registered the same quarter vol and page numbers


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The village was in Cardiganshire at the time and the registration district Tregaron




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Re: need help with birth/baptism of Evan Jones Pontrydfenligaid abt 1867
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 15 January 23 05:13 GMT (UK) »
Do you know if he had any other siblings besides David. 

It might help narrow down the family, Jones is a very common name

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Re: need help with birth/baptism of Evan Jones Pontrydfenligaid abt 1867
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 15 January 23 13:10 GMT (UK) »
Likely family from Cardiganshire to Ystradyfodwg

Living Queen St, Ystradyfodwg -  there is a Queen Street Ton pentre, very near the village of Ystrad. Valley map on previous thread.

1891 - Piece: 4423 Folio:   122 Page number: 7

Mary Jones   68   Head Tregaron
John Jones 40   Son Lledrod, Cardiganshire, Wales
Evan Jones 24   Son "
Jane Jones 32   Daughter "
Ann Perry  28   Daughter " (Parry)
Richard Parry 27   Son-in-law 
John Williams 23   Boarder
David Edwards 45   Boarder
David Jones 48   Boarder
Thomas Perry 4 Nephew (looks like Parry, this is son of Ann born 1890 in further census)

Possible Marriage 1890 for Ann Jones to Richard Parry - Pontypridd reg district

https://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/CGN/Lledrod
Pontrydfenligaid within area see map

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Squire/Thomas/Davies/Gibbons/Mordecai/Bowen/Lewis/Rees/Williams/Jones/Llewellyn/Morgan - Glamorgan
Lewis - Breckonshire
Davies/Roderick - Myddfai Carms
Lloyd/Jones - Denbigh/Salop
Thackwell/Thomas - Hereford/Monmouthshire
Shoemac/Squire/Keirle/Small - Somerset
Berry/Baggot/Lee/Clayton - Lancs
Yelland/Bray/Trethewey - Cornwall
Baggot/Hurley/Keaveny/Shiel/Flynn - Ireland


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Re: need help with birth/baptism of Evan Jones Pontrydfenligaid abt 1867
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 15 January 23 13:12 GMT (UK) »
1871 - Piece:   5568 Folio:   14 Page number:   21
Upper Lledrod, Cardiganshire

Mary Jones 48, Head, widow Caron, Cardiganshire
Jane Jones 13   Daughter
Ann Jones 10   Daughter
David Jones 7   Son
Evan Jones   4   Son
Rachel Evans 74   

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Squire/Thomas/Davies/Gibbons/Mordecai/Bowen/Lewis/Rees/Williams/Jones/Llewellyn/Morgan - Glamorgan
Lewis - Breckonshire
Davies/Roderick - Myddfai Carms
Lloyd/Jones - Denbigh/Salop
Thackwell/Thomas - Hereford/Monmouthshire
Shoemac/Squire/Keirle/Small - Somerset
Berry/Baggot/Lee/Clayton - Lancs
Yelland/Bray/Trethewey - Cornwall
Baggot/Hurley/Keaveny/Shiel/Flynn - Ireland

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Re: need help with birth/baptism of Evan Jones Pontrydfenligaid abt 1867
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 15 January 23 13:17 GMT (UK) »
1861 Lledrod Upper
Piece:   4201 Folio:   13 Page number:   20

Thomas Jones   33   Head Caron, Cardiganshire, Wales
Mary Jones 34   Wife Caron
Elizabeth Jones 12   Daughter
John Jones 10   Son
Thomas Jones 5   Son
Jane Jones 3   Daughter
Ann Jones 8mths    Daughter

Possible - There is a online marriage for Thomas & Mary Jones 1849 Tregaron

Thomas Jones
Marriage Age:   Full Age
Marriage Date:   10 Oct 1849
Marriage Place:   Tregaron, Cardiganshire, Wales
Father:   Thomas Jones, Farmer
Spouse:   Mary Jones, full age, father John Jones, lab

https://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/CGN/Tregaron (also called Caron)

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Squire/Thomas/Davies/Gibbons/Mordecai/Bowen/Lewis/Rees/Williams/Jones/Llewellyn/Morgan - Glamorgan
Lewis - Breckonshire
Davies/Roderick - Myddfai Carms
Lloyd/Jones - Denbigh/Salop
Thackwell/Thomas - Hereford/Monmouthshire
Shoemac/Squire/Keirle/Small - Somerset
Berry/Baggot/Lee/Clayton - Lancs
Yelland/Bray/Trethewey - Cornwall
Baggot/Hurley/Keaveny/Shiel/Flynn - Ireland

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Re: need help with birth/baptism of Evan Jones Pontrydfenligaid abt 1867
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 15 January 23 13:51 GMT (UK) »
Possible death, abode Lledrod.

Caron burials Cardiganshire
Thomas Jones
Death Age:   40
Record Type:   Burial
Birth Date:   1828
Death Date:   abt 1868
Burial Date:   3 Feb 1868
Burial Place:   Tregaron, Cardiganshire, Wales
Page number:   124

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Squire/Thomas/Davies/Gibbons/Mordecai/Bowen/Lewis/Rees/Williams/Jones/Llewellyn/Morgan - Glamorgan
Lewis - Breckonshire
Davies/Roderick - Myddfai Carms
Lloyd/Jones - Denbigh/Salop
Thackwell/Thomas - Hereford/Monmouthshire
Shoemac/Squire/Keirle/Small - Somerset
Berry/Baggot/Lee/Clayton - Lancs
Yelland/Bray/Trethewey - Cornwall
Baggot/Hurley/Keaveny/Shiel/Flynn - Ireland

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Re: need help with birth/baptism of Evan Jones Pontrydfenligaid abt 1867
« Reply #7 on: Monday 16 January 23 13:38 GMT (UK) »
There is an Evan Jones registered Tregaron Wales March Quarter 1867 mother's maiden name Jones

Vol.11B page 79

There is also a William Jones registered the same quarter vol and page numbers


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The village was in Cardiganshire at the time and the registration district Tregaron

Registered March Q 1867 would fit with birthdate 15th January 1867 for Evan given on naturalisation.

Also a twin brother William registered. Address on BC for Evan would confirm place/parents. PDF on GRO around £7.00 if you are not aware.

Likely death for William
JONES, WILLIAM       age 0 
GRO Reference: 1867  M Quarter in TREGARON  Volume 11B  Page 59

Tree by other researchers of family
https://www.familysearch.org/tree/pedigree/landscape/MZJQ-ZQD

Does his marriage cert have any addresses/witness names that could link to posted census?

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Squire/Thomas/Davies/Gibbons/Mordecai/Bowen/Lewis/Rees/Williams/Jones/Llewellyn/Morgan - Glamorgan
Lewis - Breckonshire
Davies/Roderick - Myddfai Carms
Lloyd/Jones - Denbigh/Salop
Thackwell/Thomas - Hereford/Monmouthshire
Shoemac/Squire/Keirle/Small - Somerset
Berry/Baggot/Lee/Clayton - Lancs
Yelland/Bray/Trethewey - Cornwall
Baggot/Hurley/Keaveny/Shiel/Flynn - Ireland

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Re: need help with birth/baptism of Evan Jones Pontrydfenligaid abt 1867
« Reply #8 on: Monday 16 January 23 16:42 GMT (UK) »
Thanks to everyone for their help.  :)   I was having difficulty narrowing down the registry district/county.  The only sibling I'm aware of for Evan Jones was brother David, whom family letters say preceded Evan in emigration to Canada and US.  Not sure if David is older/younger.  The marriage cert for Evan Jones and Elizabeth Hughes was in Pontypridd, Glamorganshire and neither witness was a Jones and no address given for witnesses.  Both Evan and Elizabeth were residing in the Pentre/Ystrad area of Rhondda.  Evan's father Thomas Jones is listed as deceased at time of Evan's marriage, 1891.