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Details of Joseph Nodder marryiage to Emily Williams Q3 1870 Plymouth
« on: Monday 16 January 23 20:42 GMT (UK) »
I know from FreeBMD that Joseph Nodder (b 1851) married Emily Williams (b cir 1849) sometime in Q3 1870 in Plymouth Reg'n District. I'd love to know more about the marriage - church, date, fathers names etc. I know a lot about Joseph, but would like to find out more about Emily. At present I only know she was born ~1849, Blackheath, London. I have hunted for details in Family Search Catalog, Ancestry, etc, with no joy. Hence this request.
  • Joseph's father was named Joseph Elias Nodder, a shoemaker from Blackheath, who emigrated to Canada with wife Elizabeth in 1873).
  • In 1871 Census Joseph and Emily were found in Frances Street, St Andrews, Plymouth with Carr family.
  • In 1881 they have emigrated to Canada, (Whitby, Ontario, today a suburb of Toronto)
  • Joseph's family has a history of Wesleyan Methodism.
  • In 1881 Canada Census (also 1891) Joseph and Emily give their religion as 'Brethren'

I find the Plymouth Brethren 'sect' very interesting (e.g. I read they could only marry on Tuesdays!) and membership would clearly have a big impact on the couple's lives.



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Re: Details of Joseph Nodder marryiage to Emily Williams Q3 1870 Plymouth
« Reply #1 on: Monday 16 January 23 22:57 GMT (UK) »
Unless the marriage cert is online you would have to buy a copy.  Nothing on Ancestry

 "Blackheath" was in more than one county.   Kent, Essex & Staffordshire
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Re: Details of Joseph Nodder marryiage to Emily Williams Q3 1870 Plymouth
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 17 January 23 08:31 GMT (UK) »
From your original findings, I would say that your only option would be to purchase a copy of the marriage certificate from GRO.  There are very few non-conformist records on-line compared to C of E.

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Re: Details of Joseph Nodder marryiage to Emily Williams Q3 1870 Plymouth
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 17 January 23 15:48 GMT (UK) »
Did they have any children before they emigrated?  Just to double check her maiden name. 
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Re: Details of Joseph Nodder marryiage to Emily Williams Q3 1870 Plymouth
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 17 January 23 16:25 GMT (UK) »
Not found on Find my past. Seems like the only way forward is to purchase the marriage certificate.

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Re: Details of Joseph Nodder marryiage to Emily Williams Q3 1870 Plymouth
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 17 January 23 16:31 GMT (UK) »
The only Nodder/Williams birth was 1873 - Sheffield.  George Laysell Nodder who died as a baby
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Re: Details of Joseph Nodder marryiage to Emily Williams Q3 1870 Plymouth
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 17 January 23 16:35 GMT (UK) »
No children on the 1881 Canadian census. 
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Re: Details of Joseph Nodder marryiage to Emily Williams Q3 1870 Plymouth
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 22 January 23 12:01 GMT (UK) »
Thanks all for this. I shall see if I can buy the marriage certificate and go from there. I should have thought of that at the start.

Can someone advise where/how to order marriage certificates. I know the GRO website where you can search for and order birth and death records, but not marriage records.

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Re: Details of Joseph Nodder marryiage to Emily Williams Q3 1870 Plymouth
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 22 January 23 13:03 GMT (UK) »
Marriage certs can be ordered in exactly the same way as birth & deaths but you cannot buy PDF copies - you have to pay the full £11

Marriages September qtr 1870   
NODDER    Joseph         Plymouth    5b   426      
WILLIAMS    Emily         Plymouth    5b   426

https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/
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