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Elizabeth Williams - born abt 1850-52 in Chepstow
« on: Thursday 19 January 23 13:27 GMT (UK) »
Hi

I am currently researching a couple - Robert Sheppard (Shepherd etc) and Elizabeth Williams.  They got married in Tidenham in 1870 and had at least 13 children thereafter in Chepstow or Barry Island.

They put their fathers down as Charles Sheppard and William Williams on the marriage entry. 

I have established that Robert was actually the illegitimate son of Elizabeth Williams, born in Easterton in 1852, with his mother getting married to Charles Burden in Market Lavington in 1854. DNA matches to half siblings confirm this.

Elizabeth states she was born in Chepstow abt 1850-52, with the only potential clue being a fathers name of William on the marriage entry.

But I cannot find Elizabeth or her parents on the census’ before her marriage to Robert in 1870, nor can I be sure who I’m looking for! Can anybody please help?

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TB

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Re: Elizabeth Williams - born abt 1850-52 in Chepstow
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 19 January 23 17:14 GMT (UK) »
On FreeBMD it is the only one I can find with father William.
Baptism: St Mary Parish Register Chepstow Monmouthshire
17 Oct 1850 . Elizabeth Ann Williams
Parents: William and Elizabeth Williams . Castle Court . Mariner

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Re: Elizabeth Williams - born abt 1850-52 in Chepstow
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 19 January 23 17:24 GMT (UK) »
Thanks for that.  Certainly one to consider.  I think William is described as a  labourer on the 1870 marriage entry, but as that’s nearly 20 years after Elizabeth’s birth a career change is very possible.

Now to try and also find some candidates on the census’.

TB

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Re: Elizabeth Williams - born abt 1850-52 in Chepstow
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 19 January 23 17:33 GMT (UK) »
Also to note the registration district of Chepstow also covered Tidenham Gloucestershire.  Would search both areas.

https://www.ukbmd.org.uk/reg/districts/chepstow.html

See map
https://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/MON/Chepstow

Cas
Census information is Crown Copyright www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

Squire/Thomas/Davies/Gibbons/Mordecai/Bowen/Lewis/Rees/Williams/Jones/Llewellyn/Morgan - Glamorgan
Lewis - Breckonshire
Davies/Roderick - Myddfai Carms
Lloyd/Jones - Denbigh/Salop
Thackwell/Thomas - Hereford/Monmouthshire
Shoemac/Squire/Keirle/Small - Somerset
Berry/Baggot/Lee/Clayton - Lancs
Yelland/Bray/Trethewey - Cornwall
Baggot/Hurley/Keaveny/Shiel/Flynn - Ireland


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Re: Elizabeth Williams - born abt 1850-52 in Chepstow
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 19 January 23 17:52 GMT (UK) »
There is a family lodging with Agili/Caswell famly in 1861.
Can t find on family search.. I see she was Elizabeth Ann on marriage cert and a Mary Ann Williams was a witness.
Broad Street , St Lawrence, Ludlow. Shropshire.
William Williams  lodger  unm  35  Treenail maker   
Elizabeth  "          "           "     33   no occupation
Elizabeth Ann "     "           "      11
Mary Ann       "     "           "      6
Emily             "     "           "      0
All born Chepstow excpt Emily born Gloucester,

Cathy
Sinnock/Sinnicks...Brighton,Greenwich.
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Re: Elizabeth Williams - born abt 1850-52 in Chepstow
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 19 January 23 17:58 GMT (UK) »
Although it says they were unmarried there are possible entries for the children with mmn Jameso GRO.
Cathy
Added...looking again I think the parents are down as married.
Sinnock/Sinnicks...Brighton,Greenwich.
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Re: Elizabeth Williams - born abt 1850-52 in Chepstow
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 19 January 23 18:09 GMT (UK) »
Thanks again.  More to consider, which is great. 

She was Elizabeth Williams on her marriage certificate on 7/8/1870 at Tidenham, but there was a Mary Ann Williams as a witness - a sister perhaps.

I am not familiar with researching this part of the country - made more challenging with a surname like Williams so I appreciate the help and support here.

TB

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Re: Elizabeth Williams - born abt 1850-52 in Chepstow
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 19 January 23 19:04 GMT (UK) »
Yes ,apologies, Elizabeth A on 1871 census , not marriage  :)
Cathy
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Re: Elizabeth Williams - born abt 1850-52 in Chepstow
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 19 January 23 19:16 GMT (UK) »
Yes ,apologies, Elizabeth A on 1871 census , not marriage  :)
Cathy

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