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Re: George Jenkins WW1 1st Devons
« Reply #9 on: Saturday 21 January 23 10:53 GMT (UK) »
Good morning Daisy

Thank you so very much for researching and checking on my great uncle George, and it is great to see a 'newspaper' photograph and article on him too... as attached to the FindAGrave site, I wonder which newspaper published this.

Thank you once again.
Have a great weekend.  Jed


Hi,

Some of the same info as given by Maec, I was typing while that was being posted, so I'll post this too :)



I think this is his CWGC reference,

https://www.cwgc.org/find-records/find-war-dead/casualty-details/2759365/george-jenkins/

It looks like the graves are very well kept,

https://www.cwgc.org/visit-us/find-cemeteries-memorials/cemetery-details/2072516/cardiff-cathays-cemetery/



There is a page about him at findagrave. It has a newspaper cutting that gives his cause of death as influenza, it also has a picture.

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/55899749/george-jenkins

I found the same newspaper report in the Western Mail 02 March 1915.



This could be his death certificate, Torquay was in the Newton Abbot Registration District,

George Henry JENKINS    Mar Q 1915    Newton Abbot    5b  266
Age:  21


Regards,
Daisy
WALES
Edwards, Jenkins, Rees, Phillips, Thomas, Westphal:
Bridell, Cardiff, Cenarth, Clydey, Eglwyswrw, Llanboidy, Llanfairnantgwyn, Llantood Pem
ENGLAND
Agg, Craddock, Hayward, Heges, Hunt, Pains: Northleach, Coln St Dennis, Gloucestershire

Bradby, Bradly, Hill, Thorp: Preston Candover Hants, London
Collins: Radford Notts
Gunther, Norton, Roberts, Rohlederer: Liverpool, Manchester, Cheshire, Yorks
Mitchell, Pells, Roberts, Sinclair, Thorp, Trery: LONDON
Smith : Felsham, Gedding SUFF

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Re: George Jenkins WW1 1st Devons
« Reply #10 on: Saturday 21 January 23 11:02 GMT (UK) »
Hi Daisy... an added note...

Would you please and kindly 'when you have a moment' post or PM me a copy of the page in the Western Mail, or maybe a couple of screenshots of the page title, of George, and possibly of any other 'lost' soldier's listed on the same page... thank you so very much again.
Jed



Hi,

Some of the same info as given by Maec, I was typing while that was being posted, so I'll post this too :)



I think this is his CWGC reference,

https://www.cwgc.org/find-records/find-war-dead/casualty-details/2759365/george-jenkins/

It looks like the graves are very well kept,

https://www.cwgc.org/visit-us/find-cemeteries-memorials/cemetery-details/2072516/cardiff-cathays-cemetery/



There is a page about him at findagrave. It has a newspaper cutting that gives his cause of death as influenza, it also has a picture.

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/55899749/george-jenkins

I found the same newspaper report in the Western Mail 02 March 1915.



This could be his death certificate, Torquay was in the Newton Abbot Registration District,

George Henry JENKINS    Mar Q 1915    Newton Abbot    5b  266
Age:  21


Regards,
Daisy
WALES
Edwards, Jenkins, Rees, Phillips, Thomas, Westphal:
Bridell, Cardiff, Cenarth, Clydey, Eglwyswrw, Llanboidy, Llanfairnantgwyn, Llantood Pem
ENGLAND
Agg, Craddock, Hayward, Heges, Hunt, Pains: Northleach, Coln St Dennis, Gloucestershire

Bradby, Bradly, Hill, Thorp: Preston Candover Hants, London
Collins: Radford Notts
Gunther, Norton, Roberts, Rohlederer: Liverpool, Manchester, Cheshire, Yorks
Mitchell, Pells, Roberts, Sinclair, Thorp, Trery: LONDON
Smith : Felsham, Gedding SUFF

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Re: George Jenkins WW1 1st Devons
« Reply #11 on: Saturday 21 January 23 11:10 GMT (UK) »
Good morning Alam

Thank you very much for your research and for checking on my great uncle George.

Please may I ask where you saw the reference to the CWGC erecting a Military Headstone on 15 February 1924, atthe  Cathays Cemetery... please can you send me this article.

Thank you so much.
Have a great weekend.
Jed



Sadly he Died of Influenza while Training with the 11th Devonshire in Feb 1915
Because he never went Overseas
No Medals were due
Hence No Medal Index Card
CWGC erected a Military Headstone 15 February 1924 I Cathays Cemetery
I would have expected to find a Dependents Pension Card to his Mother or Father David
But can't find one ?
WALES
Edwards, Jenkins, Rees, Phillips, Thomas, Westphal:
Bridell, Cardiff, Cenarth, Clydey, Eglwyswrw, Llanboidy, Llanfairnantgwyn, Llantood Pem
ENGLAND
Agg, Craddock, Hayward, Heges, Hunt, Pains: Northleach, Coln St Dennis, Gloucestershire

Bradby, Bradly, Hill, Thorp: Preston Candover Hants, London
Collins: Radford Notts
Gunther, Norton, Roberts, Rohlederer: Liverpool, Manchester, Cheshire, Yorks
Mitchell, Pells, Roberts, Sinclair, Thorp, Trery: LONDON
Smith : Felsham, Gedding SUFF

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Re: George Jenkins WW1 1st Devons
« Reply #12 on: Saturday 21 January 23 11:17 GMT (UK) »
Good morning Allan

Thank you so very much for finding George's details and sadly too that he died of Meningitis... its such a great shame.
Please could you possibly save and PM the cards you found over to me when you have a spare moment.

Have a great weekend and thank you again. Jed

Sadly he Died of Influenza while Training with the 11th Devonshire in Feb 1915

There are 4 pension cards held on Fold3 - his mother, Sarah, received a dependants pension and after she died, his father, David, became the recipient.

The most interesting card of the 4 is the one that I have attached -- it states the cause of death as MENINGITIS.
(image courtesy of Fold3 / Western Front)
WALES
Edwards, Jenkins, Rees, Phillips, Thomas, Westphal:
Bridell, Cardiff, Cenarth, Clydey, Eglwyswrw, Llanboidy, Llanfairnantgwyn, Llantood Pem
ENGLAND
Agg, Craddock, Hayward, Heges, Hunt, Pains: Northleach, Coln St Dennis, Gloucestershire

Bradby, Bradly, Hill, Thorp: Preston Candover Hants, London
Collins: Radford Notts
Gunther, Norton, Roberts, Rohlederer: Liverpool, Manchester, Cheshire, Yorks
Mitchell, Pells, Roberts, Sinclair, Thorp, Trery: LONDON
Smith : Felsham, Gedding SUFF


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Re: George Jenkins WW1 1st Devons
« Reply #13 on: Saturday 21 January 23 11:43 GMT (UK) »
Good morning everyone...

I was trying to work out and see how I could thank you ALL (hopefully this works) for everything that you've researched and found, thank you all so much.

Golly I wish I'd researched great uncle George years ago... but of course I've always thought of him, also of the great number of my family who've served in many ways and also from all sides of the wars.

I must try to put together and publish a Great War and WW2 article one day, showing all of my families input into each sides or the war, from the English, the Welsh, the American, the French, and the German side too... But I may well need a little more help from you all on RootsChat.
Its such a great shame that our families, and what are effectively 'cousins' have to go to war, and for what.

I have so much more to learn.

Thank you ALL once again.
Have a great weekend.
Jed
WALES
Edwards, Jenkins, Rees, Phillips, Thomas, Westphal:
Bridell, Cardiff, Cenarth, Clydey, Eglwyswrw, Llanboidy, Llanfairnantgwyn, Llantood Pem
ENGLAND
Agg, Craddock, Hayward, Heges, Hunt, Pains: Northleach, Coln St Dennis, Gloucestershire

Bradby, Bradly, Hill, Thorp: Preston Candover Hants, London
Collins: Radford Notts
Gunther, Norton, Roberts, Rohlederer: Liverpool, Manchester, Cheshire, Yorks
Mitchell, Pells, Roberts, Sinclair, Thorp, Trery: LONDON
Smith : Felsham, Gedding SUFF

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Re: George Jenkins WW1 1st Devons
« Reply #14 on: Sunday 22 January 23 07:09 GMT (UK) »

Hi,

Here are the newspaper snippets,



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Re: George Jenkins WW1 1st Devons
« Reply #15 on: Sunday 22 January 23 07:19 GMT (UK) »


FindMyPast has a 14 day free trial period,

https://www.findmypast.co.uk/free-trial?event_location=header?nextpage=%2F

and Newspapers.com have a 7 days trial,

https://www.newspapers.com/

You would be able to see the newspapers there. 


Wisdom I learnt from a previously forgetful moment of mine, "always remember to cancel the subscription before it runs out" :)


Regards,
Daisy
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« Reply #16 on: Sunday 22 January 23 23:37 GMT (UK) »

Images without blue boxes,

You can see the full pages at the sites I mentioned above.

Regards,
Daisy
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Re: George Jenkins WW1 1st Devons
« Reply #17 on: Tuesday 24 January 23 21:48 GMT (UK) »
George Jenkins  did in deed leave the U.K. during the war, and not die whilst training with his unit.

I initially thought that George had signed up with the 1st Devons, this should be the 3rd Devons, and from here George transferred to the 11th Devons.

Can you please possibly find any further evidence and documentation relating to the 3rd Devons training at the Holy Trinity Parish Hall, or at Exeter?

Is there any reference to the 3rd or 11th Devons on board the S.S. Dulcie and the Elmsgarth, or possibly on route or returning from Gibraltar or Constantinople?

Also, is there an establishment with a WW1 database of all known 'issued' medals?

Many thanks again.
Jed

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From our wartime Jenkins family postcards... George Jenkins writing home...

Postcard;
"It's got to be done, they won't be told."

Dated...
1914 September 30th.

Holy Trinity Parish Hall"
H...? Company
3rd Devons
Exeter.

Dear Aunt and grandfather.

Just a few words hoping you are quite well. as I am pleased to say it leaves myself at present. Well I have joined the Army I had to leave my job. All the boys had to. Good luck. No more now. Love to you and granddad. George


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.... November 18th, Sadly the year is not clear...

George writes home...

Postcard;
Salute de Constantinople.  Tour de Leandre.

Aboard the
S.S. Dulcie.

(George aboard the  S.S. Dulcie, is on his way to Constantinople, via picking up orders from Gibraltar. )

Dear All
Just a line hoping find you all right.  This is a view of Constantinople, this is where you begin to go up the river, grand isn't it. Well can't get no rats tails. Received letter safe. Going to Gibraltar for orders. Hope you are well. Keep this postcard as it is one of the half dozen I bought. We are leaving here. Remember me to all at home without naming. Tell J.P he will get no cigars as there are none.
Fondest Love George

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23 MAG 13.

Postcard;
Civitavecchia. Italy.
Aboard the
S.S. Elmsgarth

Postcard:
Roma. Palazzo Reale Quirinale

Dear grandfather and Mary

Just a line hoping you are on the best of health same as I am at present.  I had a letter from home saying you grandfather was ill with a cold Hope it is better now. I am at sea again you see. Well I hope you get a good crop of hay in this summer and I hope you will. I will get this in on the 6th of June as he said. Nice place this. Hope you are well. George
WALES
Edwards, Jenkins, Rees, Phillips, Thomas, Westphal:
Bridell, Cardiff, Cenarth, Clydey, Eglwyswrw, Llanboidy, Llanfairnantgwyn, Llantood Pem
ENGLAND
Agg, Craddock, Hayward, Heges, Hunt, Pains: Northleach, Coln St Dennis, Gloucestershire

Bradby, Bradly, Hill, Thorp: Preston Candover Hants, London
Collins: Radford Notts
Gunther, Norton, Roberts, Rohlederer: Liverpool, Manchester, Cheshire, Yorks
Mitchell, Pells, Roberts, Sinclair, Thorp, Trery: LONDON
Smith : Felsham, Gedding SUFF