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Re: Location in Russia?
« Reply #9 on: Saturday 21 January 23 23:31 GMT (UK) »
The Scotsman of 9 August 1919 reports a list of naturalisations as published in that week's Gazette including  Benjamin Solomon, Russian, 20 Thistle Street, Glasgow, Tailor. He had served in UK armed forces.
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Re: Location in Russia?
« Reply #10 on: Saturday 21 January 23 23:33 GMT (UK) »
I don't live too far from the archives but I will probably try and request a copy on Monday. The issue is that it *may* not be him. It probably is though as there was no other Benjamin Solomon from Russia on the archives that I could find.
Unless he did become naturalised from South Africa so therefore there is no certificate - if it works like that.
To complicate things further, his daughter (my Grandma) says his "real" surname was phonetically pronounced something similar to "Lakovitska" but he changed it when he left Russia due to the desertion.

Good eye, ShaunJ. Sorry I'm new to this ... and tired right now!  ;D

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Re: Location in Russia?
« Reply #11 on: Saturday 21 January 23 23:38 GMT (UK) »
The Scotsman of 9 August 1919 reports a list of naturalisations as published that week's Gazette including  Benjamin Solomon, Russian, 20 Thistle Street, Glasgow, Tailor. He had served in UK armed forces.
Sounds like it is most likely him then. He was a tailor. It's well known in the family that he was a tailor as that is how he built his small fortune & I have many South African sources that connect him to my Grandmother/GGM that all state he was a tailor.
Going to sign up to the british newspaper website now....! Then look for his UK army index card... never knew he was in the British Army... Wow. He was born in 1875 as far as I know so likely was in the Army pre-WW1.

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Re: Location in Russia?
« Reply #12 on: Sunday 22 January 23 09:29 GMT (UK) »
The Scottish 1921 census lists a Benjamin Solomon aged 47 in Gorbals - maybe worth buying some credits?

https://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/record-results/112208774163cc795faf5ce?check_logged_in=1
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Re: Location in Russia?
« Reply #13 on: Sunday 22 January 23 15:16 GMT (UK) »
The Scottish 1921 census lists a Benjamin Solomon aged 47 in Gorbals - maybe worth buying some credits?

https://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/record-results/112208774163cc795faf5ce?check_logged_in=1

Thanks. Your link is broken but I need to sign up to FindMyPast for another 1921 census so will look into this at the same time. This man is certainly the same man as in The Scotsman that you mentioned previously as Gorbals seems to be a two minute walk from Thistle Street.

I have since discovered this attachment. Possibly his naturalisation record in the SA archives. Unfortunately it seems that one needs to either visit the archives in person, or hire a researcher to gain access to the certificate.

I'm unsure whether both of these naturalisation records are him, or if only one of them is him.

This is what I have so far:
Applied for naturalisation 1904-1906 from SA. -- unsure if him
Immigration record from 1910. Ship from Kourland, Russia to SA. States "years of residence/service under the crown: 6" on the record -- unsure if him
SA Marriage in 1911. Wife also from Kourland, died in SA, 1912. -- unsure if him
Served in British Army WW1. -- unsure if him
Naturalisation record at British National Archives 1919. -- unsure if him
Marriage banns to my GGM in SA, 1928. He's listed as a widower -- confirmed
My Grandmother and siblings baptisms with his name again in SA -- confirmed

Just need to connect the dots... Hopefully the National Archives nat. certificates may give a clue.

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Re: Location in Russia?
« Reply #14 on: Sunday 22 January 23 15:24 GMT (UK) »
You'll need Scotlands People for the Scottish 1921 census
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Re: Location in Russia?
« Reply #15 on: Sunday 22 January 23 15:39 GMT (UK) »
You'll need Scotlands People for the Scottish 1921 census

Right. Thanks for the heads up.

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Re: Location in Russia?
« Reply #16 on: Sunday 22 January 23 18:42 GMT (UK) »
Another source to consider.

This is the family in 1891 in Glasgow?

Markus Solomon 45 tailor
Racheal Solomon 38
Benjyman Solomon 16 machinist
Hanah Solomon 14 tailoress
Polly Solomon 11
Moses Solomon 7 b. Glasgow
Jane Solomon 4 b. Glasgow
Alexander Solomon 2 b. Glasgow
Catherine OBrien 39 boarder

Address: 139 Rutherglen Rd Glasgow/Hutchesontown

For the children born in Scotland/Glasgow, their birth registrations should include date and place of parents' marriage. This can often be a big clue as to where the parents originated from. Worth checking online on www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk to see what shows.

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Re: Location in Russia?
« Reply #17 on: Sunday 22 January 23 18:58 GMT (UK) »
Birth regs on SP. Mother's maiden name showing as FRANK:

1884 Isaac Solomon
644 / 12 / 1134
Gorbals

1886 Jeanie Solomon
644 / 12 / 1465
Gorbals

1889 Alec Solomon
644 / 12 / 319
Gorbals

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