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Re: Victorian Burial Source - Elizabeth Underdown d 1898
« Reply #9 on: Sunday 22 January 23 02:18 GMT (UK) »
Is this her birth?

Elizabeth Ann Underdown
Born 1861 Inglewood Vic
f. Robert
m. Elizabeth Ann (nee Brown)
Vic reg 17652/1861

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ADD: mother's maiden name McBroom, Broom or Brown according to birth regs

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Re: Victorian Burial Source - Elizabeth Underdown d 1898
« Reply #10 on: Sunday 22 January 23 02:39 GMT (UK) »
No Matthew. That is a possible sister to her. The registration is actually for Mary Elizabeth Ann (even though registered only as Elizabeth Ann) who went by the name of 'Annie'. This family did very confusing things with names that has caused lots of complications, which is why I'm hoping to find the original burial source.   
Ireland- Harpur, Copeland, Longridge, Hayes
Devon- Underdown, Pennington, Cox, Bishop, Harding
Cornwall- Teague, Rowe, Long, Bray, Trounson, James, Bosanko, Jewell, Pollard, Rundle, Mutton, Hand, Floyd, Rodda
Suffolk- Mills, Bird
Essex- Mills, Kent, Ruffell
Glamorgan, Wales- Morgan, David, Jones, Thomas, Watkins, Morris

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Re: Victorian Burial Source - Elizabeth Underdown d 1898
« Reply #11 on: Sunday 22 January 23 08:38 GMT (UK) »
Hi

I had a look on Family Search , they have scans of the original burial register for  Bendigo Cemetery

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSVT-Z714-9?i=549&cat=201328

I could not find the daughter Elizabeth Underdown, details of Robert's burial 15 Aug 1886 and Elizabeth 24.8.1916 are in the register.   

She was mentioned 20.5.1879 in the Bendigo Advertiser https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/88212551?searchTerm=elizabeth%20underdown

maybe she married, I have had no luck finding a marriage


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Re: Victorian Burial Source - Elizabeth Underdown d 1898
« Reply #12 on: Monday 23 January 23 03:52 GMT (UK) »
In Memorium.
Edit to clarify.  This is for Robert BEAVIS and mentions his daughter Eliza who died in WA etc

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/173155575?searchTerm=%22%20Beavis%20spring%20gully%22~12

Sue

In summary

Eliza Ann BEAVIS born c 1860 Spring Gully or 1859 Parramatta NSW and died 1898 WA married

1. John James Miller McKINNON  1883
2. William Joshua UNDERDOWN  1896   Is this the Joshua mentioned in Elizabeth UNDERDOWN's obituary.


Erimophla - Would you be kind enough to post what information you have on the family. Every little bit helps.



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Re: Victorian Burial Source - Elizabeth Underdown d 1898
« Reply #13 on: Monday 23 January 23 04:26 GMT (UK) »
I wondered too, but there is this early death, so I'm not sure.

UNDERDOWN Joshua George
Father Robert
Mother Elizabeth Ann (UK)
VICT
Aged 22 Months
3282/1861

OP seems certain  the Robert BEAVIS  family is not the same as the Robert UNDERDOWN family, though both appear in Bendigo.

I would be interested to understand what evidence  eramophla has that the person she is seeking ever existed.

No birth, no death, and no other record to date.
Sue
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Re: Victorian Burial Source - Elizabeth Underdown d 1898
« Reply #14 on: Monday 23 January 23 12:11 GMT (UK) »
http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article177586677

The Bendigo Independent  24 Nov 1898

DEATH.
UNDERDOWN,—On the 6th November, at Cookernup, West Australia, the beloved wife of J. Underdown, and daughter to Mrs. R. Beavis, sister to Mr. W. Beavis, Spring Gully, and E.Trewern, T. Head, Long Gully; H. J. Wilkinson and G. Beavis, West Australia.
Deeply regretted.
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Re: Victorian Burial Source - Elizabeth Underdown d 1898
« Reply #15 on: Monday 23 January 23 12:23 GMT (UK) »
Mentions Joshua UNDERDOWN of Western Australia - son of Elizabeth UNDERDOWN who died in 1916 at Brighton Vic

http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article155165679
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Re: Victorian Burial Source - Elizabeth Underdown d 1898
« Reply #16 on: Monday 23 January 23 21:24 GMT (UK) »
A lot of what is being posted is information I already have on the family. These links summarise what I have:
https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Underdown-281
https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/McBroom-1078
https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Underdown-351
https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Underdown-352
https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Underdown-353
https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Underdown-354
https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Underdown-355
https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Underdown-356
https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Underdown-357
https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Underdown-358
https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Underdown-359
https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Underdown-360

What I am trying to establish is if there was another child born to this family in 1868 named Elizabeth. I had two pieces of evidence that established her existence. The first is an article from the Bendigo Advertiser dated 15/7/1868 in which mother Elizabeth was involved in the inquest into the death of a child (not hers) who she had been nursing. As she was nursing, it is likely that Elizabeth had her own infant that she was nursing at the time. I also had my own handwritten note that I copied from a source that stated an Elizabeth Underdown was buried in Bendigo in 1898, aged 30, the daughter of a Robert Underdown and Elizabeth. Unfortunately, I have misplaced the source that I located this from. It is this source that I have been trying to establish with my post.

I have tried all the usual locations to find it in Bendigo Cemetery records and newspaper articles to no avail. I was hoping that someone may be aware of some other or more obscure sources that I have overlooked and could potentially check to locate where I got this information from.

I hope this clarifies the situation for everyone.
Ireland- Harpur, Copeland, Longridge, Hayes
Devon- Underdown, Pennington, Cox, Bishop, Harding
Cornwall- Teague, Rowe, Long, Bray, Trounson, James, Bosanko, Jewell, Pollard, Rundle, Mutton, Hand, Floyd, Rodda
Suffolk- Mills, Bird
Essex- Mills, Kent, Ruffell
Glamorgan, Wales- Morgan, David, Jones, Thomas, Watkins, Morris

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Re: Victorian Burial Source - Elizabeth Underdown d 1898
« Reply #17 on: Monday 23 January 23 23:17 GMT (UK) »
You need to read the full digitised inquest into the death of Kate KANE whilst in the care of Mrs UNDERDOWN.

She was not breast fed, but fed on goat's milk.

https://prov.vic.gov.au/archive/14DE884A-F1BA-11E9-AE98-F5C77C831022?image=1

So the woman was not lactating.

Sue

ADDING A snip from the inquest. "....Children like deceased who are not brought up on their mother's breast are more susceptible.......

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