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Re: Struggling with a few words
« Reply #9 on: Sunday 22 January 23 11:14 GMT (UK) »
St. Andrew's cathedral on Clydeside ( Clyde Street or Broomielaw ?) was the catholic cathedral as the original one up the brae next to the Infirmary became Protestant in the Reformation ( mid 1500s ).
There is a St. Andrew's protestant church nearby just off the Saltmarket but that's not the one you want. The Catholic baptism uses sponsors but I think the Protestant ceremony uses Godparents, same thing I  believe.   Also the fact that the lady was named ( protestant ) wouldn't have occurred if it was St.Andrew's in the Square ( Proddie one ).
The parish referred to as St.Andrew's supplants the Barony parish of the Established Church of Scotland ( Protestant) ... see oldmapsonline.org or the NLS maps.
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Re: Struggling with a few words
« Reply #10 on: Sunday 22 January 23 16:32 GMT (UK) »
I think you are most likely right. It seems the closest match when you compare things. Thank you so much for helping.

Looking at it again, the penultimate letter could be an o rather than an a but I'd say that it would be most likely an a, misheard when written :-\
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Re: Struggling with a few words
« Reply #11 on: Sunday 22 January 23 17:38 GMT (UK) »

Side note, would anybody know where in Glasgow St Andrew's Catholic parish covers, or where I could find that info out? This is the parish James was baptised in

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Have a look here at this old parish areas map. St Andrew's is marked as V111/8.

www.gla.ac.uk/myglasgow/library/files/special/exhibns/month/feb2006.html

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Re: Struggling with a few words
« Reply #12 on: Sunday 22 January 23 18:11 GMT (UK) »
Keenon/Keenan?

I see the following Catholic marriage entry for a John Keenon on Scotland’s People:

KEENON
JOHN
COLLINS
ANN
29/10/1802
GLASGOW, ST ANDREW'S

And there is a baptism entry for Keenan on Scotland’s People:


KEENAN
JOHN
JOHN KEENAN / JANE LINDSAY
MALE
29/5/1826
11/2/1827
GLASGOW, ST ANDREW'S

Perhaps the father here would fit for your entry.


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Re: Struggling with a few words
« Reply #13 on: Monday 23 January 23 04:34 GMT (UK) »
Hi Dudel...

I think the consensus is the surname being Sheenon/Sheenan rather then Keenon/Keenan?

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Re: Struggling with a few words
« Reply #14 on: Monday 23 January 23 08:12 GMT (UK) »
I don’t strongly disagree with Sheenon but I’m not 100 percent convinced.

If it’s Sh, I don’t see the first line of the h going all the way down like we do in the h of  The child. It has the ornateness of the H in Hall but with a squiggle. I don’t see much of a similarity to the S of Andrew Scott, the S here is much more at an angle and looping but that connects to a small letter so is not overly helpful.

Still plumping for an ornate K and Keenon. Would be good to see more of the text though.

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Re: Struggling with a few words
« Reply #15 on: Monday 23 January 23 09:14 GMT (UK) »
This twenty third day of June 1811  I baptised James
Lawful son of John Lochan, cotton spinner, and of his
Lawful wife, Mary Hall, a protestant. The child was
born the nineteenth instant. Sponsors were John
Sheenon and Grace Mc Luckie   -  Andrew Scott

Spelled Sheenon in the transcript
Scottish surnames in FindmyPast -  Shennon and Shennan
NORTON (Kent), KEECH (Dorset), MOOR / MOORE (Kent), HOCKING (Dorset / Somerset), LEVI (City of York), SANDWELL (Kent), CHAFFIN  (Dorset / Somerset), STRONG (Dorset)

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Re: Struggling with a few words
« Reply #16 on: Monday 23 January 23 11:08 GMT (UK) »
Still plumping for an ornate K and Keenon. Would be good to see more of the text though.

I agree with DudelsackHogg that it is Keenon (not Sheenon), despite the SP transcript.

Both the upper-case K and lower-case k (in McLuskie) have a distinctive extra curl at the end.

Are there any other entries on the same page in the same hand with a known K or k, for comparison?

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Re: Struggling with a few words
« Reply #17 on: Monday 23 January 23 11:27 GMT (UK) »
Compare the first  letter to  the  S in Sponsor which is more or less a right slant.  The second letter is then very much like an h as in This
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