Thomas John Volan

[Sandyq]

I am trying to find more about Thomas John Volan who married Ellen Bridgman in 1875 at Pancras, he and Ellen are shown on the 1881 census at St. Pancras Thomas gives his birthplace as Leeds are their ages are shown as 37/34
In 1891 Thomas is again stating his birthplace was Leeds, but their ages are now shown as 58/42
I  can't find Thomas anywhere before his marriage, nor can I find him after the 1891 census.
Ellen died in 1909
I think it likely Thomas's surname had different spellings i e There are two Thomas Fallon's born at Leeds in 1844, mothers maiden names shown as Glinn and O'Brien, but I can't see marriages
I suppose it's possible the family came to England from Ireland due to the potato famine
I haven't as yet sent for the marriage certificate which hopefully would show Thomas's fathers Christian name, is there anywhere online I can get that information from.
Any advise/ ideas would be most welcome

[Christine53]

The family is on the 1901 census , transcribed as Nolan. I haven't found their marriage register entry but there is a notice of the marriage in the Witney Express and Oxfordshire and Midland Counties Herald 21 Oct 1875 :

October 13th at the Wesleyan Chapel Lady Margaret Road Kentish Town, Mr Thomas John Volan of Brighton to Ellen , third daughter of Mr William A Bridgeman , late of Witney.

No family details given for Thomas - I think you may have to bite the bullet and buy the certificate, unless someone else can find it.

[Sandyq]

Thank you so much Christine.

I see the 1901 entry now and it is them - Thomas is a tramcar driver.

Strange that Ellen's family are mentioned and not Thomas's.

I have spent so much on certificates I was hoping to not to have to get another, but i think you're right.
Thank you again

[CaroleW]

A Barnabas Volan aged 50 died 1843 Huddersfield & a Julian Volan aged 93 in 1937 Sculcoates

[Sandyq]

Thank you Carole, I'm following all leads up

[cockney rebel]

Hi
There are several family trees at Ancestry with Thomas Volan, one including a photo of him and his son.
Worth checking for any further clues I would think
Rebel

[softly softly]

Whilst not answering your original post, are you interested in the outcome of Thomas John & Ellen's children, particularly Ethel Blanche Volan

John

[softly softly]

Believe Thomas John Volan can be found on 1911 census as Johnson Volan aged 78 born Sherburn Yorkshire. This dob ties in with his age in 1891 census. He is also with his daughter Ethel Hicks but she is another A4 page story.

John

added

There are 2 baptisms in Sherburn near Leeds

Mary Volans 30.1.1835
Jane Volans 20.9.1837

Parents for both William & Mary.

[softly softly]

Info only about Ethel Blanche Volan

Last child with Arthur Clayton
CLAYTON, ETHEL  LORNA     mmn NOLAN 
GRO Reference: 1904  J Quarter in ISLINGTON  Volume 01B  Page 212

1911
Arthur Hicks 35
Ethel Hicks 33
Queenie M  Hicks 11months
Johnson Volan 78 (suspect he is Thomas John Volan as per original post, he is aged 58 on the 1891 census so this ties in nicely)

Birth of Queenie May
CLAYTON, QUEENIE  MAY     mmn VOLAN
GRO Reference: 1910  J Quarter in ISLINGTON  Volume 01B  Page 237

1921
Ethel B Clayton c1877
Myrtle Clayton daughter 1913 b Islington
Maurice Clayton daughter 1910 b Islington     Actual image shows Queenie.
Kenneth Moore son 1917  Edmonton

CLAYTON, MYRTLE  MARJORIE     mmn VOLAN
GRO Reference: 1913  M Quarter in ISLINGTON  Volume 01B  Page 371

MOORE, KENNETH  JASON     mmn CLAYTON
GRO Reference: 1917  M Quarter in EDMONTON  Volume 03A  Page 716

So it looks as though Ethel never married Arthur Hicks or a Mr Moore but she does from 1921/2 onwards use the Moore surname, as do her daughters Queenie May & Myrtle Marjorie.

1934 electoral reg @ 5 Creighton Ave Muswell Hill, Ethel Blanche Moore, Queenie May & Myrtle Marjorie.
1938 electoral reg @ 49 Muswell Rd N10, Ethel Moore, Kenneth Jason Moore.
1939 war register @ 4 Fairlawn Grove, Ethel Blanche Moore dob 20.7.1876
1947-60 electoral registers @ 4 Fairlawn Grove
1961-1963 elec reg @ The Lawn, Ealing
1964 death dq Ealing = birth c1876

Queenie May Moore married jq 1938 Romford to Herbert L Brown
Queenie died 1996 with dob 27.4.1910 sames as 1939. Herbert Leslie died 1980

Myrtle Marjorie Moore married twice, mq 1938 Romford to Maurice O Rixon, one daughter to them, sq1953 Ealing to William T Tindale. Myrtle died 1999

Kenneth Jason Moore married Ivy K Skinner

John