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Susannah Williams father
« on: Saturday 28 January 23 19:53 GMT (UK) »
1864 Rhosymedre Church.
Susannah Williams spinster 25 married John Higginson 25. Father James Higginson.
Susannah names her father as William Morris sawyer.
I can only find one Susannah about the same age in Ruabon and her parents are Moses and Ann.
There is a William Morris a Sawyer in Ruabon but why is she giving that name as her father.
It's baffling me.🤔
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Re: Susannah Williams father
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 28 January 23 19:58 GMT (UK) »
Possibly Illegitimate - born as Williams but knows who her biological father was??

Have you looked for her under Williams on earlier censuses?  No birthplace given in your post
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Re: Susannah Williams father
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 28 January 23 20:37 GMT (UK) »
1851 Ruabon
Susannah Williams
Age:10 
Father's Name:Moses , Williams:
Mother !,Ann Williams

born:Ruabon, Denbighshire, Wales

1861 and Susannah is a servant b Ruabon.

She has 3 older siblings in 1851 so probably not illegitimate. It's a mystery.
John Higginson died in 1869.
Her later marriages are Civil  and I'm not prepared to pay for certificates.

1841 census missing.

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Re: Susannah Williams father
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 28 January 23 20:49 GMT (UK) »
Longshot - Moses Williams reversed - could sound like William Morris.  I did say it was a longshot 🤣🤣
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Re: Susannah Williams father
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 28 January 23 21:05 GMT (UK) »
Moses is a coalminer,  still around in 1871.
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Re: Susannah Williams father
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 28 January 23 21:33 GMT (UK) »
Susanna, daughter of Moses, isn't 10 in 1851, she's 19, so too old to be 25 on marriage in 1864.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:SG8Z-LFK

Baptism in Ruabon 22 Aug 1831 Susannah daughter of Moses, collier, & Ann Williams of Moreton Above

1861 Susannah is 22 https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M7JN-HFH

1871 Susannah is 32 https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:V5PR-MRK
Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb

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Re: Susannah Williams father
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 28 January 23 21:39 GMT (UK) »
parish marriage 16 July 1853 Ruabon
Joseph Bellis 27 bach collier Rhosllanerchrugog father Joseph Bellis collier
Susannah Williams 22 spinster Rhosllanerchrugog father Moses Williams collier
witnesses Benjamin Pritchard & Mary Williams
Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb

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Re: Susannah Williams father
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 29 January 23 07:22 GMT (UK) »
Susanna, daughter of Moses, isn't 10 in 1851, she's 19, so too old to be 25 on marriage in 1864.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:SG8Z-LFK

Baptism in Ruabon 22 Aug 1831 Susannah daughter of Moses, collier, & Ann Williams of Moreton Above

1861 Susannah is 22 https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M7JN-HFH

1871 Susannah is 32 https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:V5PR-MRK

Thanks .
The 1871 is definitely mine.

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Re: Susannah Williams father
« Reply #8 on: Friday 10 February 23 18:00 GMT (UK) »
WILLIAMS, SUSANNAH   mmn  ROBERTS  GRO Reference: 1838  
D Quarter in WREXHAM  Volume 27  Page 239

This is a good match, a pity 1841 census is missing
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