Susannah Williams father

[wilcoxon]

WILLIAMS, SUSANNAH   mmn  ROBERTS  GRO Reference: 1838 
D Quarter in WREXHAM  Volume 27  Page 239

This is a good match, a pity 1841 census is missing

Perhaps not ☹

Susannah Williams
Age:30
Marriage Date:18 Dec 1869
Marriage Place:Ruabon, Denbighshire, Wales
Father:Peter Williams
Spouse:John Jones

[wilcoxon]

Update,
John Higginson died and Susannah married John Hughes, he died and she married again to Stephen Roberts.
On both these marriage certificates she names her father as Robert Williams,  deceased collier.

I'm still at a loss. 🤔

[osprey]

agreed it's a pity about the 1841 census.

This family seems to match some of the details that you have

1851 census in Coed Cristionydd, Rhosymedre headed by William Morris, sawyer
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:SG88-CSW
birth reg for Martha Morris march qtr 1851 Wrexham mmn Roberts

parish marriage in Pontfadog 7 Dec 1846
William Morris full age widower Sawer Trefor Isaf father John Morris, rockman
Hannah Williams full age widow Trefor Isaf father Joseph Roberts collier

possible first marriage Ruabon 26 Dec 1835 Robert Williams & Hannah Roberts

Was hoping to find Susannah with Roberts grandparents in 1851 but haven't done so far.

[wilcoxon]

I did find this. Non Conformist records,

Hanah Roberts 
Birth Date16 Nov 1812
Birth Place Ruabon, Denbighshire, Wales
DenominationBaptist
Father Joseph Roberts
Mother Mary Roberts

[wilcoxon]

Also Noah Williams birth certificate. Ruabon
23 July 1837, father Robert Williams collier mother Hannah Roberts.
Informant Mary Price midwife

[wilcoxon]

1851 Ruabon
Mary Roberts 73
Joseph Roberts 63
David Roberts 21 son
Noah Williams14 grandson

I wonder if  Noah and Susannah were siblings.

[osprey]

I'd seen that 1851 census but not the possible birth for Noah. Could be a sibling.

Possible marriages
24 Dec 1858 Gwersyllt
Noah Williams 21 bach collier Moss Row father Robert Williams collier
Ann Evans 20 spinster The Moss father John Evans collier

1861 census https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M7JH-89W

1871 https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:V5PL-P8P


18 Feb 1878 Wrexham
Noah Williams full widower collier Broughton father Robert Williams collier

1881 https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q2WS-C2L8
Emma Weaver full widow Broughton father William Barker farmer

[wilcoxon]

Thanks I did find these. It's a bit of a coincidence that Susannah Williams/Higginson / Hughes / Roberts  also lived in the Moss during her first marriage,  but coal miners did move around.

Presumably Robert Williams died between 1839 and 1846.
The only 2 found on GRO are Robert Williams 27 in 1840 and Robert Williams 33 in 1841,both Wrexham district.
Northwales bmd has the 1840 one as in Ruabon subdistrict.
Unfortunately Ive not found a burial on Ancestry.
I could be working this out wrongly though 😉

[wilcoxon]

agreed it's a pity about the 1841 census.

This family seems to match some of the details that you have

1851 census in Coed Cristionydd, Rhosymedre headed by William Morris, sawyer
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:SG88-CSW
birth reg for Martha Morris march qtr 1851 Wrexham mmn Roberts

parish marriage in Pontfadog 7 Dec 1846
William Morris full age widower Sawer Trefor Isaf father John Morris, rockman
Hannah Williams full age widow Trefor Isaf father Joseph Roberts collier

possible first marriage Ruabon 26 Dec 1835 Robert Williams & Hannah Roberts

Was hoping to find Susannah with Roberts grandparents in 1851 but haven't done so far.

I don't get this if Hannah was a Williams.
Name William Roberts age 8 b 1843
Step son. .?