Struggling to find ancestor after 1861....would like some help please.

[Ladyhawk]

Don’t know how accurate this tree is on family search

William Cobb died 6 June 1885 Hackney London
Mary Jane died 24 March 1928 Hackney
List 7 childrens names (includes Charles William)
https://www.familysearch.org/tree/pedigree/landscape/9D5M-JN6

One of the childrens names listed is Albert Herbert Cobb b1882

GRO indexes confirm mmn

COBBE, ALBERT  HERBERT   mmn TERRY
GRO Reference: 1882  J Quarter in PORTSEA ISLAND  Volume 02B  Page 502   

And another listed

COBB, MABEL  ALICE   mmn TERRY
GRO Reference: 1884  J Quarter in BOSTON  Volume 07A  Page 448   

her baptism is on F M P Lincolnshire baptisms, confirms parents names

Mabel Alice Cobb
Baptism 08 Jun 1884 Boston, St Botolph
Father William , labourer Mother  Mary Jane

Looks as if Mary Jane has remarried - one of the witnesses to her 1869 marriage to William Cobb was C Colbourne

1891 Market Street, Northampton
Charles   Colbourne   Head   1850   Boot laster   Northampton
Mary J   Colbourne   Wife   1852   -   Edinburgh, Scotland
Mary J   Cobb   Stepdaughter   1876   Boot fitter   Bengal, East Indies
Maud   Cobb   Stepdaughter   1876   Boot machinist   Bengal, East Indies
Beatrice   Cobb   Stepdaughter   1878   Boot fitter   Bengal, East Indies
Agnes   Cobb   Stepdaughter 1881 Bengal
Albert   Cobb   Stepson 1882   -   Portsmouth, Hampshire
Mabel   Cobb   Stepdaughter   1885   -   Boston

1901 34, Stevens Avenue Hackney
Charles   Colbourne   1850   Boot trade laster Northamptonshire
Mary   Colbourne   Wife   1851 Ireland
Agnes   Cobbe   Step daughter   1881   Boot trade (paste fitter)   India
Albert   Cobbe   Step son   1883   Tea warehouse porter   Portsmouth, Hampshire
Mabel   Cobbe   Step daughter   1885   Stationary warehouse porter   

1911 Mary’s pob Monaghan living Low Leyton, West Ham, London & Essex
added - 1911c https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XWF6-ZVB
married 22 years

This is the only Colbourne/Cobb marriage I can see on FreeBMD but her middle name is Ann

Sep 1888   Hackney    1b   754
Cobb    Mary Ann       
Other names on name page
Colbourne    Charles    
Sanders    Mary Ellen
Trigg    Thomas James   

[Steve C]

What can I say Ladyhawk..........A GREAT BIG THANK YOU VERY MUCH 

When I first started my tree I did copy part of another tree who had the same family members as myself. Costly mistake........the parts I copied were completely bogus and not related at all.......I never did that again. The time and effort rectifying the situation was immeasureable. Where ever possible I always back up any details or information with a record to verify the authenticity.

The information you provided in your last reply will certainly keep me busy researching to ensure that everything is correct, but at least it has given me a starting point which I didn`t have previously 

Many sincere thanks Ladyhawk for your help and assistance 

[Ladyhawk]

Steve you are most welcome glad to have been of some assistance 

It was only following on from osprey’s great find of William’s possible Army record I thought I’d check to see if I could find the 1869 marriage to confirm his father’s name so you could then check if he was the correct person.

Following on from the census info I posted for children

Charles W Cobb   1870   British Armed Forces And Overseas Births And Baptisms Monaghan, Ire

Mary J Cobb   1875   Rawalpindi   India   REG1   Gro Regimental Birth Indices (1761 To 1924)
Maude Cobb has the same details as above (probably twins)

Beatrice S   Cobb   1877   Murree   India   REG1   Gro Regimental Birth Indices (1761 To 1924)

Agnes L   Cobb   1880   Cliffden   India   REG1   Gro Regimental Birth Indices (1761 To 1924)

Albert H   Cobb   1882   Portsmouth England   REG1 Gro Regimental Birth Indices (1761 To 1924)

No Mabel A Cobb b1884 listed

All the above Cobbs are listed together same vol 1009  page 26 , Regiment 17th Foot
Record set British Armed Forces And Overseas Births And Baptisms  from  F M P

[Steve C]

Don’t know how accurate this tree is on family search

William Cobb died 6 June 1885 Hackney London
Mary Jane died 24 March 1928 Hackney
List 7 childrens names (includes Charles William)
https://www.familysearch.org/tree/pedigree/landscape/9D5M-JN6

One of the childrens names listed is Albert Herbert Cobb b1882

GRO indexes confirm mmn

COBBE, ALBERT  HERBERT   mmn TERRY
GRO Reference: 1882  J Quarter in PORTSEA ISLAND  Volume 02B  Page 502   

And another listed

COBB, MABEL  ALICE   mmn TERRY
GRO Reference: 1884  J Quarter in BOSTON  Volume 07A  Page 448   

her baptism is on F M P Lincolnshire baptisms, confirms parents names

Mabel Alice Cobb
Baptism 08 Jun 1884 Boston, St Botolph
Father William , labourer Mother  Mary Jane

Looks as if Mary Jane has remarried - one of the witnesses to her 1869 marriage to William Cobb was C Colbourne

1891 Market Street, Northampton
Charles   Colbourne   Head   1850   Boot laster   Northampton
Mary J   Colbourne   Wife   1852   -   Edinburgh, Scotland
Mary J   Cobb   Stepdaughter   1876   Boot fitter   Bengal, East Indies
Maud   Cobb   Stepdaughter   1876   Boot machinist   Bengal, East Indies
Beatrice   Cobb   Stepdaughter   1878   Boot fitter   Bengal, East Indies
Agnes   Cobb   Stepdaughter 1881 Bengal
Albert   Cobb   Stepson 1882   -   Portsmouth, Hampshire
Mabel   Cobb   Stepdaughter   1885   -   Boston

1901 34, Stevens Avenue Hackney
Charles   Colbourne   1850   Boot trade laster Northamptonshire
Mary   Colbourne   Wife   1851 Ireland
Agnes   Cobbe   Step daughter   1881   Boot trade (paste fitter)   India
Albert   Cobbe   Step son   1883   Tea warehouse porter   Portsmouth, Hampshire
Mabel   Cobbe   Step daughter   1885   Stationary warehouse porter   

1911 Mary’s pob Monaghan living Low Leyton, West Ham, London & Essex
added - 1911c https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XWF6-ZVB
married 22 years

This is the only Colbourne/Cobb marriage I can see on FreeBMD but her middle name is Ann

Sep 1888   Hackney    1b   754
Cobb    Mary Ann       
Other names on name page
Colbourne    Charles    
Sanders    Mary Ellen
Trigg    Thomas James

Thank you very much Ladyhawk for your latest reply and the information you supply 

Also like to reiterate my thanks to osprey as well 

Just going through your previous reply Ladyhawk ( quoted one above ) and digesting the details, Did Mary Jane remarry or just take the Colbourne name, I ask this because the 1891 Census of Market Street Northampton including the Cobb children states Mary J   Colbourne   Wife   1852   -   Edinburgh, Scotland. I assumed she was Irish 

Looks like I am going to be busy trying to fathom that one out 

Steve 

[Ladyhawk]

Just going through your previous reply Ladyhawk ( quoted one above ) and digesting the details,
Did Mary Jane remarry or just take the Colbourne name, I ask this because the 1891 Census of Market Street Northampton including the Cobb children states Mary J   Colbourne   Wife   1852    Edinburgh, Scotland.

I assumed she was Irish 

Mmm....I believe she is the same Mary Jane nee Terry born c 1851 even though her pob is different

1921 Mary Jane Colbourne born 1850 pob Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland
1911 Mary Jane Colbourne born 1851 pob Monaghan Ireland
1901 Mary Colbourne        born 1851 pob Ireland
1891 Mary J Colbourne      born 1852 pob Edinburgh Scotland

I did find a possible brother born Monaghan and their parents marriage (I sent to you via pm) on the Irish Genealogy site also checked for a possible birth on Scotland People but nothing stands out

If this is her death she was born c1852

COLBOURNE, MARY  JANE  age    76 
GRO Reference: 1928  M Quarter in HACKNEY  Volume 01B  Page 652

Charles & Mary Jane could well have been living together and not married as mentioned I only found 1888 Hackney Colbourne/Cobb marriage entry on FreeBMD but her middle name Ann 

Perhaps someone might have access if the marriage is available on Anc*y to check if they married each other and if so, was her father named William

Added a possible match on the censuses for the other couple on the 1888 Hackney marriage entry

1891 - Median Road, Hackney
Thomas J Trigg Head   1867   Letter sorter      London, Middlesex
Mary E Trigg Wife   1845   Living own means Burton on Trent

1901 - 226, Wood Street, Walthamstow, West Ham
Thomas J   Trigg   Head   1866   Sorter g p o   Lambeth, Surrey
Mary E Trigg   Wife   1846   Fancy draper   Burton on Trent

Thomas' middle name James and Mary's middle name is Ellen on the 1911 census (married 22 years)

[Millmoor]

Charles Colbourne married Mary Ann Cobb 8th July 1888. He is a 37 year old boot caster - address 50 Goldsmith's Row, Haggerston, Father Thomas. Mary Ann Cobb is recorded as a 36 year old widow of 55 Morning Lane. Father William Terry (dead).

William

[Ladyhawk]

Charles Colbourne married Mary Ann Cobb 8th July 1888.
He is a 37 year old boot caster - address 50 Goldsmith's Row, Haggerston, Father Thomas.

Mary Ann Cobb is recorded as a 36 year old widow of 55 Morning Lane. Father William Terry (dead).

Thank you William for posting the marriage details

I wonder why her middle name is listed as Ann  She married William Cobb as Mary Jane Terry (minor) father William Terry

[Ladyhawk]

Hello William

Would you kindly mind checking to see if Mary J Cobb married Joseph John W Woodhouse
1896 Hackney (her father William Cobb) and were either witnesses a family member - thank you

Mary is on the 1911 census born India
1911c https://www.familysearch.org/tree/person/sources/G4T7-6PP

1901 census - 18, Janet Road, West Ham
Joseph   Woodhouse   Head   1875   Dock labourer   Bow, Middlesex
Mary   Woodhouse   Wife   1876East Indies
Beatrice   Woodhouse   Daughter   1896   Homerton, Middlesex
Joseph   Woodhouse   Son   1899 Homerton, Middlesex
Infant**   Woodhouse   Daughter   1901 Custom House, Essex

WOODHOUSE, BEATRICE  LOUISA     mmn COBB 
GRO Reference: 1896  D Quarter in HACKNEY  Volume 01B  Page 615

WOODHOUSE, MABEL  ALICE**     mmn COBB 
GRO Reference: 1901  J Quarter in WEST HAM  Volume 04A  Page 133

[Millmoor]

Marriage 21 Jan 1896. Mary Jane Cobb is 20, a spinster of 3 Bridge Street. Her father is named as William Cobb, serviceman. Witnesses William Henry Alfred Williams (poss. Willans) and Eliza Selina Woodhouse.

William