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Re: Looking for Hugh Griffith Wales to South Africa to Australia
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 31 January 23 16:31 GMT (UK) »
Not sure if it is worth looking to see if there are any electoral records of the Penygroes area in the period you are looking for, to see if he is on any of them, but he may only have been on a visit.

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Re: Looking for Hugh Griffith Wales to South Africa to Australia
« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 31 January 23 16:32 GMT (UK) »
https://newspapers.library.wales/view/3298558/3298572/62/
a newspaper article on his return to Wales from South Africa.

He had been absent for 7 years  Had travelled a lot in America and Australia but he came home from South Africa.
John Humphreys also came home from the same place.

Fits in nicely with the 1903 passenger list.

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Re: Looking for Hugh Griffith Wales to South Africa to Australia
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 31 January 23 16:38 GMT (UK) »
https://newspapers.library.wales/view/3460578/3460586/88/
notice of his death in "Herald Gymraeg"

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Re: Looking for Hugh Griffith Wales to South Africa to Australia
« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 31 January 23 16:57 GMT (UK) »
8 Sep 1906 sailing out of Southampton to Cape Town, there's a Mr H Griffiths aged 31 (b.1875) and Mr E Griffiths aged 18 (b.1888), both miners sailing on the Avondale Castle (The Union-Castle Mail Steamship Co, Ltd)


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Re: Looking for Hugh Griffith Wales to South Africa to Australia
« Reply #13 on: Tuesday 31 January 23 17:09 GMT (UK) »
Looks like he was going back and forth
Mr H Griffiths aged 32 (b,1875), a miner, sailed on the Guelph to Southampton from Natal, arriving 8 Dec 1907

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Re: Looking for Hugh Griffith Wales to South Africa to Australia
« Reply #14 on: Tuesday 31 January 23 18:10 GMT (UK) »
I know you have him on the other thread on the Orontes to Freemantle in September with R Humphreys.
16 May 1903 there's a H Griffiths a miner aged 26 (so age out by 2 yrs) sailing from Southampton to the Cape   
No other relevant ones

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Re: Looking for Hugh Griffith Wales to South Africa to Australia
« Reply #15 on: Tuesday 31 January 23 21:56 GMT (UK) »
Thank you very much.
please may I ask where do you find all this information. I used( about 5 years ago) to be able to find passenger lists on ancestry but had no luck this evening
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Re: Looking for Hugh Griffith Wales to South Africa to Australia
« Reply #16 on: Wednesday 01 February 23 10:24 GMT (UK) »
Llunwen It was all on Ancest, maybe there are more records now. There are unassisted passenger lists to Western Australia - the region where Kalgoorlie is in. Look under immigration and travel section.

There are Australian National Archive sites that also give the information, free digital images for some regions, although I don't think Western Australia does. The Western Aus site has descriptions of documents that are gold mining related, so could be useful to get a general idea of things but access to original docs is in person of digital copies for a fee. I searched for Kalgoorlie (that's the correct spelling). https://archive.sro.wa.gov.au/index.php/informationobject/browse?showAdvanced=1&sq0=Kalgoorlie&topLod=0&rangeType=inclusive

There are also some free images on LDS site of ships from South Africa, though some link to FindMyPast, but there was no obvious sign of him on any I looked at from SA

There was another record 1912 of a Mr H Griffiths unaccompanied by any wife etc, but sailing from on the Ascania that left Liverpool 23 Sep 1912 via Cape Town, bound for Victoria. He was contracted to land at Melbourne. No other details given, but this is some way and further from Freemanle, so don't think it's him.

I take it he never married.

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Re: Looking for Hugh Griffith Wales to South Africa to Australia
« Reply #17 on: Monday 06 February 23 12:06 GMT (UK) »
Just for completeness here is the Death Notice for John Robert Humphreys in Benoni tvl 1918 https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CS9T-F396-L?i=1669&cc=2520237&personaUrl=%2Fark%3A%2F61903%2F1%3A1%3AQPH8-V2PZ
Gives his mothers name as Margaret! But matches you Newspaper article about his death
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