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Bangor is y coed/Bangor on Dee, Denbighshire and Flintshire
« on: Wednesday 01 February 23 09:47 GMT (UK) »

I've found a baptism in Bangor in 1799 that state the abode as Sutton. The records have quite a few other entries showing this as abode. For the life of me I can't find it on the old OS maps (Edinburgh University). Does anyone know or can find it, please.

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Re: Bangor is y coed/Bangor on Dee, Denbighshire and Flintshire
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 01 February 23 09:59 GMT (UK) »
I'm not sure if this helps place it  at all ... there is a newspaper mention in a list of places along a rail line of "... Issacoed; Sutton; Bangor, otherwise Bangor Issacoed, otherwise Bangor -Monachourm ..."
https://newspapers.library.wales/view/3088557/3088559/8/ (half way down the first column)

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Re: Bangor is y coed/Bangor on Dee, Denbighshire and Flintshire
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 01 February 23 10:13 GMT (UK) »
There’s a place near Bangor on Dee called Sutton Green on Google Earth.

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Found Sutton Green here on 6” map:

https://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/#zoom=13.6&lat=53.03583&lon=-2.88331&layers=6&b=1
ESSEX: Cramphorn Raven Sams Sayers Taylor; GLOS: Beacham/Beauchamp; HERTS: Chamberlain Chuck; LEICS: Allot Bentley Godfrey Greasley Hunt Hurst Jarvis Lane Lea Light Woodward; LINCS: Lambert Mitchell Muse ; STAFFS: Hodgkins Jarvis; SURREY: Light; WARKS: Astley/Chesshire Bradbury Hicken/Hickin Hudson; WORCS: Ballinger Beauchamp Laight

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Re: Bangor is y coed/Bangor on Dee, Denbighshire and Flintshire
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 01 February 23 10:17 GMT (UK) »
Hi Gadget,
Found this on UK Genealogy website.

Sutton, Denbighshire
Historical Description
Sutton, a township in Holt parish, Denbighshire, on the river Dee, 5½ miles E of Wrexham.
Sockett in Shropshire, Montgomeryshire, Herefordshire, Monmouthshire, Glamorgan and probably the rest of the UK
Corbet/t in Shropshire, Norfolk, Worcestershire
Gambold in South West Wales, USA, Australia
Baylis/s in Gloucestershire, South Wales
Richards in Breconshire
Manthorpe in Shropshire, Norfolk, Cheshire, Suffolk


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Re: Bangor is y coed/Bangor on Dee, Denbighshire and Flintshire
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 01 February 23 10:29 GMT (UK) »
Davedrave beat me to finding it on the map. That's the one I found, Sutton is just north of Pickhill and Bangor is y coed.
https://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/#zoom=14.9&lat=53.03218&lon=-2.89593&layers=6&b=1

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Re: Bangor is y coed/Bangor on Dee, Denbighshire and Flintshire
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 01 February 23 10:39 GMT (UK) »
Thanks all for the map links.


I now see it just north east of Pickhill (another branch lived there!). I was looking  more to the west of Bangor  :-X


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Re: Bangor is y coed/Bangor on Dee, Denbighshire and Flintshire
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 04 February 23 19:14 GMT (UK) »
Wasn't there a bit of Flintshire tagged on to the South West of Denbighshire and in this bit of Flintshire were small colonies which were part of Denbighshire (may have got this wrong!) but how did that all come about ?

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Re: Bangor is y coed/Bangor on Dee, Denbighshire and Flintshire
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 04 February 23 20:30 GMT (UK) »
Yes it was referred to as Maelor Saesneg


Not all that far from where I was born and grew up  ;D

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Re: Bangor is y coed/Bangor on Dee, Denbighshire and Flintshire
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 04 February 23 21:02 GMT (UK) »
My g-grandparents came from Overton - think they were Welsh speakers - moved to the Vale of Clwyd about 1880.