Martin Winn's kids seem to have different mothers?

[Seelife]

I can find Mary Forbes in Census 1851 and 1861 but not Mary Storey.
1861 Census, Durham District
Family Number: 21773.6
Framwellgate Moor Village, Newcastle Row
Michael Forbes, head, married, 45, coal miner, born in Gateshead, County Durham
Ann Forbes, wife, married, 39, born in Winlaton, County Durham
John Forbes, son, 19, coal miner, born in Cassop, County Durham
Mary Forbes, daughter, 14, born in Ferryhill, County Durham
William Forbes, son, 10, born in Cassop, County Durham
Jane A. Forbes, daughter, 7, scholar, born in Cassop, County Durham
Elizabeth Forbes, daughter, 5, born in Crook, County Durham

[Seelife]

Hi KGarrad, those are all marriage records on FreeBMD. I just cleaned out the extra stuff
Marriages Dec 1864   (>99%)
Winn    Emily         W Derby    8b   857     Scan available - click to view
Winn    Martin         Durham    10a   404     Scan available - click to view
Winn    Thomas         Hull    9d   404     Scan available - click to view
Winn    Thomas         Durham    10a   404     Scan available - click to view
Winn    Venson         Leeds    9b   552     Scan available - click to view
Winn    William         Bedale    9d   998     Scan available - click to view

Thanks for inputting tho as any help is appreciated.
Looking at this, I am slowly coming around to a Forbes being the morther as its supported by the childrens birth records (MMn Forbes) on GRO.
But I cannot find the link to martin with a marriage. So its still a mystery.

[JenB]

If I were you I would most definitely purchase the 1864 Winn/Storey marriage certificate as already suggested by Heywood.

You need some hard evidence rather than relying on indexes and transcriptions which don't give the full picture. 

I have already told you how you can do this cheaply by getting the parish register marriage entry from Durham County Record Office.

My own feeling is that somehow, but I don't know why, Mary Forbes and Mary Storey are the same person.

[JenB]

Just popping in again to say that, as already pointed out,  the 1864 marriage was at St Cuthbert's which is exactly the right church for Framwellgate, which is where the Forbes family were living in 1861......

Please do be careful about copying and pasting information. If you post census information it should really be your own transcription from the original, not a cut and paste from another website such as Durham Records Online.

[KGarrad]

Hi KGarrad, those are all marriage records on FreeBMD. I just cleaned out the extra stuff
Marriages Dec 1864   (>99%)
Winn    Emily         W Derby    8b   857     Scan available - click to view
Winn    Martin         Durham    10a   404     Scan available - click to view
Winn    Thomas         Hull    9d   404     Scan available - click to view
Winn    Thomas         Durham    10a   404     Scan available - click to view
Winn    Venson         Leeds    9b   552     Scan available - click to view
Winn    William         Bedale    9d   998     Scan available - click to view

Thanks for inputting tho as any help is appreciated.
Looking at this, I am slowly coming around to a Forbes being the morther as its supported by the childrens birth records (MMn Forbes) on GRO.
But I cannot find the link to martin with a marriage. So its still a mystery.

Mother's Maiden Name may not be the name she married under?
Previous marriage?
Step-father's name?

I agree with the others - you really need the certificate

[heywood]

I initially wondered if it was a transcription error - although it would seem that it would be on all records, if it were, which is unlikely.

Then, of course, there is the birth of Ann with mmn Story.
Her birth occurring a year after the birth of twins, Martin (mmn Forbes)  and Ann (mmn Forber) and their death.

The link between the marriage and Ann’s birth is strange, I agree.

[Seelife]

Hi, I have ordered the record as suggested, maybe it will shed some light, I will get back when the results turn up. In the meantime, I will keep digging. One suggestion was she remarried, but her age for a  first marrige would be too young I think. She does seem to be 17 when married, maybe a porkypie to cover age... The records of birth do point at a Forbes - but no proof yet.

[heywood]

I mentioned the idea of a fib for her marriage earlier. It has been known but there doesn’t seem to be a reason.
Has anyone found a birth registration for Mary Forbes?

Great news that you have ordered the record and looking forward to a resolution. 

[JenB]

Has anyone found a birth registration for Mary Forbes?

No, but I found a very likely looking baptism (reply #11)

If she was indeed born in or near Ferryhill then her birth should have been registered in Stockton R.D. https://www.ukbmd.org.uk/reg/districts/stockton.html