Author Topic: Sheila Elizabeth Francis ( Nee Gibson) 1922 - 1995  (Read 1933 times)

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Re: Sheila Elizabeth Francis ( Nee Gibson) 1922 - 1995
« Reply #27 on: Saturday 04 February 23 17:04 GMT (UK) »
Do not have the Marriage Crt. only the index record.  Will see if I can find it and check further, thanks

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Grainger - Wigton and Newcastle Area
Gibson - Newcastle/Scotland (Roxburgh) Areas
Crisell/Crissell/Chrysel/etc. - Suffolk Area
Schoch - Germany (Öhringen Area)

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Re: Sheila Elizabeth Francis ( Nee Gibson) 1922 - 1995
« Reply #28 on: Saturday 04 February 23 17:07 GMT (UK) »
For 1914, I can only find three births:
Cyril IT Francis . mmn Spence . Abergavenny . Jan-Mar 1914 . 11 . 87
Cyril W Francis . mmn Corfe . Camberwell . Jan-Mar 1914 . 1d . 1711
Cyril E Francis . mmn Eccestone . Plymouth . Jul-Sep 1914 . 5b . 395
I looked all over the UK.

You may need his birth date and maybe the certificate to unlock his war documents.

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Re: Sheila Elizabeth Francis ( Nee Gibson) 1922 - 1995
« Reply #29 on: Saturday 04 February 23 17:18 GMT (UK) »
Yes I got it from the marriage record and from MJF birth cert.  Must be the same person though, same date of death.

Was his father named David William Francis on the m/c?

Do not have the Marriage Crt. only the index record.  Will see if I can find it and check further, thanks


When you posted you had got it from the marriage record & MJF birth certificate I thought you had a copy of the m/c

Did you get the Army details for Cyril from the birth certificate?
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Re: Sheila Elizabeth Francis ( Nee Gibson) 1922 - 1995
« Reply #30 on: Saturday 04 February 23 17:27 GMT (UK) »
On the 1921 census, the only Cyril Francis b.1914 matches the one in Plymouth. There is a Cyril Francis born 1912 Maesteg and living in Bridgend and another b.1915 Blaengarw and also living in Bridgend.

The Cyril Benjamin Francis form the war records, b.1916 Rhondda, Pontypridd
I also looked for Cyril Beale with nothing in Wales on the 1921 census and nothing with Cyril E.

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Cyril Francis . mmn Francis . Jan-Mar 1912 . Pontypridd . 11a . 1342
Maybe illegitimate?
Cyril Francis . mmn True . Oct-Dec 1913 . Bridgend . 11a . 1817
Cyril Francis . mmn James . Oct-Dec 1915 . Bridgend . 11a . 1579


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Re: Sheila Elizabeth Francis ( Nee Gibson) 1922 - 1995
« Reply #31 on: Saturday 04 February 23 17:39 GMT (UK) »
On the 1939 Register there is a Cyril Francis (no middle initial) b.1914 at 2 Sea View, Cefn Cribwr, Penybont (Bridgend). No middle initial. I do not subscribe so cannot see the full date of birth.

I think possibly the above Cyril could be ruled out as he appears at Bridgend Police Court
mentioned in Glamorgan Gazette 13 June 1941 his address given as Sea View Cefn Cribwr
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Re: Sheila Elizabeth Francis ( Nee Gibson) 1922 - 1995
« Reply #32 on: Saturday 04 February 23 17:46 GMT (UK) »
I believe his MMN was James, I have located a birth record (not cert.)
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Gibson - Newcastle/Scotland (Roxburgh) Areas
Crisell/Crissell/Chrysel/etc. - Suffolk Area
Schoch - Germany (Öhringen Area)

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Re: Sheila Elizabeth Francis ( Nee Gibson) 1922 - 1995
« Reply #33 on: Saturday 04 February 23 17:49 GMT (UK) »
That could link to the one I added above:
Cyril Francis . mmn James . Oct-Dec 1915 . Bridgend . 11a . 1579

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Re: Sheila Elizabeth Francis ( Nee Gibson) 1922 - 1995
« Reply #34 on: Saturday 04 February 23 17:52 GMT (UK) »
I believe his MMN was James, I have located a birth record (not cert.)

FRANCIS, CYRIL       mmn JAMES 
GRO Reference: 1915  D Quarter in BRIDGEND  Volume 11A  Page 1579

If the above is your Cyril that would mean he is not the Cyril Benjamin Francis who died 1942 whose birth was registered 1916 mmn Richards.

To be 100% certain the marriage certificate should confirm his fathers name then you can go from there.

What was the occupation given for MJF father?
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Re: Sheila Elizabeth Francis ( Nee Gibson) 1922 - 1995
« Reply #35 on: Saturday 04 February 23 18:00 GMT (UK) »
It would seem Cyril Francis b.1915 in Blaengarw, by 1921 he was living in Llangeinor, Bridgend.
Can anyone look to see who he was living with?