Parents Of John

[carol46]

Looking for the parents of John Ayris Aris or Ayres various ways of spelling. He married Elizabeth Timms. They had a daughter in 1845 Called Eliza in Bicester. She married a Felix Parker.
Thanks for any help.

[emeltom]

According to the Census he was born c1811 in Bicester.

I can only find one birth/baptism

John Ayres baptised Bicester 19 September 1811 parents William and Ann.

[Darnity]

Is there any information to suggest John's parents being Gypsies or Travellers?

The reason I say that is because there were members of the community using Ayres and also Parker and I notice carol46 has Boswell, another Traveller surname, in her surname list so just to try rule them out in this instance.

Other spellings of John's surname to look for include Eyres, Airs, Aires, Aries and Hare

[CaroleW]

When Eliza married in 1880 she married as Aris.

She had an illegitimate son George in 1867 & his birth was registered as Aris

Felix Parker jnr b 1880 - mmn Aris

1851 - surname is Aris.  Daughter Emma died 1855 aged 5 - surname Aris

Felix & Eliza were living together in 1871

[ciderdrinker]

Hello
The family are under Arias on the censuses
John Arias 1811-2 April 1883 burial Bicester
Elizabeth 1813- 30 Jan 1897 burial Bicester

1891 51 Chapel St Bicester
Elizabeth Aris 79 Bicester widow
Emily granddaughter 20? washer woman born Bicester

1881 Ereskirkwell ? Bicester
John 70 ag labourer Bicester
Elizabeth 68

1871 20 Crockwell
John 61 ag lab
Elizabeth 58
James 23 son
Hannah 18
Elinor 14

1861
John 51, ag lab
Elizabeth 49 lace maker
Eliza 16
James 14
Hannah 7
Elinor 4

1851 Backway
John 40 ag lab
Elizabeth 36
George 15
Thomas 15
Mary Anne 12
Richard 10
Eliza 5
James 3
Emma 7 months

1841 Backway
John  30 y ,Elizabeth 25 y ,George 7 ,Thomas 5 Mary 3,Robert 10 mths

The couple married at Bicester 31.3.1834 .He signed she made a mark

Their grave is on https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/237115917/john-aris

As emeltom saya he was baptised 1811

Siblings -Elizabeth 6.3.1809,Sarah 21.11.1813,William 27 .3.1814-3.5.1814,Thomas and William 29.6.1817,Hannah 9.11.1818 ,George 4.3.1821 ,David 21.12.1823

In 1802 William had been apprenticed to a saddler William Sirett

1851 census at Backway Bicester
William Avis 65 pauper Blacksmith Marsh Gibbon Oxfordshire
Ann 70 wife Bicester
William Avis 32 ag lab Bicester

1841 The couple are there alone.

William bapt Marsh Gibbon 29.4.1787 s of John and Rebecca Aris
He seems to have died in Bicester 11 Feb 1859
William married Anne Tanner at Launton 12.11.1810 .This time the groom made a mark and the bride signed.
Anne for some reason is buried at Hethe  22.5.1853 age 73 years
Not finding her family.    Sorry

John Arias of Marsh Gibbon married by licence  Rebecca Howkins 11.10.1786 at Stoke Lyne
She makes it to the 1841 census at Marsh Gibbon
Edward  Arias 40 farmer y
Martha 40 y
Rebecca 74 y pauper

Hope that helps

Ciderdrinker