Changing Names

[dbree]

Hi,

There is a William Jones b. 12 Jan 1854 d. 28 March 1900 on Find A Grave in the Cartier
Pioneer Cemetery.  Looking at the actual stone it doesn't look like 1900 more like 1906/8.
It also says railway foreman, married to Annie, father of 11.
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/68618460/william-jones

I think this is the family in 1901  Cartier Villages, Nipissing, North Bay. I think Fanny is Annie.
Jones, William, age 45 b. England 12 Jan 1855, foreman RR (railway)
Jones, Annie, age 37,
Jones, Ellen, age 14
Jones, Edna, age 12
Jones, Ada, age 11
Jones, Walter, age 9
Jones, Percy, age 7
Jones, Minnie, age 6
Jones, Viola, age 4
Jones, Arthur, age 2
Jones, Elsie, age 6/12
Pages 1 and 2, click on the image to enlarge
https://central.bac-lac.gc.ca/.item/?app=Census1901&op=img&id=z000084715
https://central.bac-lac.gc.ca/.item/?app=Census1901&op=img&id=z000084716

DB

[*Sandra*]

While waiting for Kevin to return.

Nothing further on a passenger list for William Lerwill/Jones 

Yes, I agree dbree,  that looks like the family on the 1901, Fanny is with some of the children in 1921.

286 McIntyre St E. North Bay. Nipissing. Ontario.

Fanney Jones 56 - Head. Widowed. Imm 1885.
Percy Jones 27   Son
Arthur Jones 22   Son
Mannie Jones 25 Daughter
Viola Jones 23   Daughter
Elsie Jones 2   Daughter

https://central.bac-lac.gc.ca/.item/?app=Census1921&op=img&id=e002945440

Sandra

[kevinf2349]

Thank you one and all.

I believe this family group is correct. I am a tad confused about Williams death date though. Was it 1906 on 1900? I am pretty sure William travelled to Canada before Fanny and John Richard travelled. I may not hunt William's crossing down as JONES is a pretty common name and he would be a distant relative of mine anyway. 

Thanks everyone.

Kevin

[*Sandra*]

I think this shows photograph shows 1906

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/68618460/william-jones

Sandra

[kevinf2349]

I think this shows photograph shows 1906

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/68618460/william-jones

Sandra

Sandra,

I am not sure this is the correct William JONES as I have found Fanny's headstone and he is on that.

https://images.findagrave.com/photos/2020/257/UNCEM_2223963_6a0b8a00-347f-41ee-910b-3cedbb8999d6.jpeg?v=1600300747

So I suspect I have been given a red herring with the 1900 v's 1906 issue. Sorry about that.

Kevin

[dbree]

Yes, he appears on her stone as beloved husband with no birth or death dates.

I believe the other stone with his birth and death date is not a red herring. The 1901 census
gives his birth as Jan 12, 1855 his stone gives Jan 12, 1854. I think the death date of 1900 was an
error on the part of whoever transcribed the Cartier cemetery stones.

DB

[*Sandra*]

I must admit I whole heartedly agree with dbree. It was a great find by dbree discovering the other headstone.

If I could just mention that sometimes a loved one may be listed with there spouse, although they are not buried with them.

Researching for people in the past we have found people buried in Canada also may be mentioned on a headstone in Scotland.  So perhaps not the red-herring you are insinuating.

Sandra

[dbree]

Agree Sandra

You often see stones with a woman's birth name, then the addition of beloved husband of.

If he was there, his name would appear first with birth and death dates.

[kevinf2349]

Agree Sandra

You often see stones with a woman's birth name, then the addition of beloved husband of.

If he was there, his name would appear first with birth and death dates.

I wasn't dismissing the work in finding the headstone for William JONES. I am just trying to understand the William on Fanny's headstone. The birthdates for that William don't match what I believe to be his birth year. The stone says 1865 but I think it was more like 1854 (on the other i.e William JONES' headstone).  The 1906 death date would tie in with the fact William and Fanny appeared in the 1901 census. I can't find the family in the 1911 census but I am still searching.

Kevin