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Christchurch Union Workhouse, Southwark - COMPLETED
« on: Sunday 19 February 23 19:08 GMT (UK) »
Does anyone have access to the Christchurch Union Workhouse records?

If so, could you assist with this one?

My great x3 grandmother Elizabeth (or Eliza) Spooner left her husband in 1860. She was pregnant at the time, and her son John was born in the workhouse on 1 January 1861. When registering the birth she made her mark ... which is odd, given that she signed the register when she was married. Since people do not tend to forget how to sign their name (particularly young people of child-bearing age), I am wondering if this is evidence that she was exceedingly weak ... perhaps because she was dying from complications of childbirth.

Can we try to find the date of her admission to the workhouse (probably late 1860) ... and see whether there is anything to indicate that she died while she was there (the birth was registered on 17 January 1861 so it would have to be after that, but possibly only by a matter of days).

And if she DID die in the workhouse ... is there any indication of what became of John?

Many, many thanks in advance for any help or assistance you are able to offer.



EDITED to add ... it looks as though John may have died before his first birthday. Death of John Spooner registered London, St Saviour, Southwark 1861 Q4 volume 1d page 10.

But do the workhouse records confirm that this was he??


There's also an Eliza Spooner death registered in West Ham 1861 Q1 ... but if she died in the workhouse in Southwark, they wouldn't register it there. However, if she discharged herself leaving her son in their care, then that might make some sense, as West Ham is closer to her "home stamping ground" (her parents and younger siblings are in Islington in the 1861 census ...)
All identified names up to and including my great x5 grandparents: Abbot Andrews Baker Blenc(h)ow Brothers Burrows Chambers Clifton Cornwell Escott Fisher Foster Frost Giddins Groom Hardwick Harris Hart Hayho(e) Herman Holcomb(e) Holmes Hurley King-Spooner Martindale Mason Mitchell Murphy Neves Oakey Packman Palmer Peabody Pearce Pettit(t) Piper Pottenger Pound Purkis Rackliff(e) Richardson Scotford Sherman Sinden Snear Southam Spooner Stephenson Varing Weatherley Webb Whitney Wiles Wright

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Re: Christchurch Union Workhouse, Southwark - records lookup request
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 19 February 23 19:56 GMT (UK) »
The Eliza death in 1861 Q1 is for a 2 year old child. So not your Eliza.

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Re: Christchurch Union Workhouse, Southwark - records lookup request
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 19 February 23 20:16 GMT (UK) »
Admission record

1st January 1861
Elizabeth Spooner b 1832
Came to the gate in Labour.

1st January 1861
A male child born in the house. Elizabeth Spooner
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Re: Christchurch Union Workhouse, Southwark - records lookup request
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 19 February 23 20:48 GMT (UK) »
Admission record
1st January 1861

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https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CS1K-DR2Z

Register of births. Says she was married.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CS1Y-K7ZY-8


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Re: Christchurch Union Workhouse, Southwark - records lookup request
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 19 February 23 20:50 GMT (UK) »
Elizabeth Spooner and son John discharged 17 January 1861
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Re: Christchurch Union Workhouse, Southwark - records lookup request
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 19 February 23 20:57 GMT (UK) »
SPOONER, JOHN       
Mother's Maiden Surname: ESCOTT 
GRO Reference: 1861  M Quarter in SAINT SAVIOUR SURREY  Volume 01D  Page 4

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Re: Christchurch Union Workhouse, Southwark - records lookup request
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 19 February 23 21:07 GMT (UK) »
1861 census
Ancestry have a John Spoohan, age 3 months, in Christ Church workhouse (St Saviours Union)
Deserted
Born in the House

Presumably is John Spooner?

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Re: Christchurch Union Workhouse, Southwark - records lookup request
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 19 February 23 21:14 GMT (UK) »
John Spooner buried Brookwood Cemetery, 29 Nov 1861
From Christ Church
Age 0
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Re: Christchurch Union Workhouse, Southwark - records lookup request
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 19 February 23 21:15 GMT (UK) »
That's all magnificent ... thank  you everyone!

I'm guessing the Q4 death is probably my great x3 uncle John ... but what became of my great x3 grandmother after that is still a mystery.

Perhaps she driftd south, and was the Elizabeth Spooner whose death is registered in Guildford in 1862. I  guess I'll need to root around that one a bit next.

All identified names up to and including my great x5 grandparents: Abbot Andrews Baker Blenc(h)ow Brothers Burrows Chambers Clifton Cornwell Escott Fisher Foster Frost Giddins Groom Hardwick Harris Hart Hayho(e) Herman Holcomb(e) Holmes Hurley King-Spooner Martindale Mason Mitchell Murphy Neves Oakey Packman Palmer Peabody Pearce Pettit(t) Piper Pottenger Pound Purkis Rackliff(e) Richardson Scotford Sherman Sinden Snear Southam Spooner Stephenson Varing Weatherley Webb Whitney Wiles Wright