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Any parish name that sounds like Gateside?
« on: Monday 20 February 23 20:00 GMT (UK) »
Charles Morris' death certificate (attached) states his mother was born in Gateside, Wales. I'm assuming it's a phonetic spelling, because I can't find any parish by that name. I also wondered if it's a rough translation of a Welsh word. Can someone estimate what parish this refers to?

There's a Gateside, Scotland, but the mother appears in the 1841 census -- unlikely she was born there. Unfortunately, I haven't found any later censuses, which would be more specific about birthplaces.

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Re: Any parish name that sounds like Gateside?
« Reply #1 on: Monday 20 February 23 20:15 GMT (UK) »
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I'm wondering if Wales is wrong. His father is born Newcastle ?Wales and the birthplace of his mother might be Gateshead (opposite bank of the Tyne to Newcastle)

Just my first thought.

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Re: Any parish name that sounds like Gateside?
« Reply #2 on: Monday 20 February 23 20:17 GMT (UK) »
Where was the mother in 1841?
Does it state "Born in County"?
Garrad (Suffolk, Essex, Somerset), Crocker (Somerset), Vanstone (Devon, Jersey), Sims (Wiltshire), Bridger (Kent)

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Re: Any parish name that sounds like Gateside?
« Reply #3 on: Monday 20 February 23 20:24 GMT (UK) »
Quote from: KGarrad on Monday 20 February 23 20:17 GMT (UK)
Where was the mother in 1841?

Bedwelty, Monmouthshire, Wales

Quote from: KGarrad on Monday 20 February 23 20:17 GMT (UK)
Does it state "Born in County"?

No -- and the same applies to the larger family, husband and three sons.

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Re: Any parish name that sounds like Gateside?
« Reply #4 on: Monday 20 February 23 20:26 GMT (UK) »
Where was Charles in any censuses?  This would give information about parents' nationality which would help in identification.
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Re: Any parish name that sounds like Gateside?
« Reply #5 on: Monday 20 February 23 20:32 GMT (UK) »
Quote from: Gadget on Monday 20 February 23 20:26 GMT (UK)
Where was Charles in any censuses?  This would give information about parents' nationality which would help in identification.

I haven't found the 1851 census, but here's 1841 (Wales; Bedwelty) and 1861 (England; Durham).

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Re: Any parish name that sounds like Gateside?
« Reply #6 on: Monday 20 February 23 20:38 GMT (UK) »
Quote from: MattW224 on Monday 20 February 23 20:32 GMT (UK)

I haven't found the 1851 census, but here's 1841 (Wales; Bedwelty) and 1861 (England; Durham).




You might have missed my first post:


Quote from: Gadget on Monday 20 February 23 20:15 GMT (UK)
Hi

I'm wondering if Wales is wrong. His father is born Newcastle ?Wales and the birthplace of his mother might be Gateshead (opposite bank of the Tyne to Newcastle)

Just my first thought.

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Re: Any parish name that sounds like Gateside?
« Reply #7 on: Monday 20 February 23 20:40 GMT (UK) »
Gateshead is in Co Durham
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Re: Any parish name that sounds like Gateside?
« Reply #8 on: Monday 20 February 23 20:55 GMT (UK) »
Quote from: Gadget on Monday 20 February 23 20:38 GMT (UK)
Quote from: MattW224 on Monday 20 February 23 20:32 GMT (UK)

I haven't found the 1851 census, but here's 1841 (Wales; Bedwelty) and 1861 (England; Durham).




You might have missed my first post:


Quote from: Gadget on Monday 20 February 23 20:15 GMT (UK)
Hi

I'm wondering if Wales is wrong. His father is born Newcastle ?Wales and the birthplace of his mother might be Gateshead (opposite bank of the Tyne to Newcastle)

Just my first thought.

Gadget

Apologies -- totally forgot to respond. I suspect you're right, considering the Wales/England switch between the 1841/1861 census. I thought similarly about Newcastle when I started the thread, but didn't want to bias anybody -- really appreciate your insight!
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