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Re: Mary Ellen Lewis b April1842 in Guilsfield area.
« Reply #36 on: Sunday 26 February 23 13:50 GMT (UK) »
Amberly ~

You asked about  my Curetons  - they were living in Grinshill and then Wem in  the late 16th and early 17th centuries. I'm descended from one of the daughters who married a Sand(i)land and moved to Montgomeryshire/Denbighshire/Shopshire borders.  one of the Sandiland daughters married a Jones!!

I recall that some of the family moved to US as early settlers. I must get my book out.

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Re: Mary Ellen Lewis b April1842 in Guilsfield area.
« Reply #37 on: Sunday 26 February 23 15:08 GMT (UK) »
To GADGET & DCB all you've said re the family is correct.  On one of my trips home, I live in Canada now, I went to Worthen Hall, & to Guilsfield cemetery & took photos of the graves & to Trawscoed House & St Chad's in Shrewsbury & stayed in Elmsmere where brother Edward had had a grocer's shop after he went bankrupt in London & died there.

Here is the Dickin & Cureton info:
Wm Dickin b Worthen 1744 m 1. Mary Beddows 1748 b Westbury, Shrops d 1773.   He m again in 1775 in Worthen to Mary Furmstone 1748/1819.
They had John Dickin 1776/1855 m 1814 at St Chad's Shrewsbury Mary Ann Cureton 1785/1847.  This is where the Edwards come into it, Mary Ann's father was Edward Cureton 1756/1796 m Henrietta Bill 1760/1818 in London & they had a son Edward 1789/1849 unmarried.   I mentioned these 2 Edwards in my original email because I saw that Mary Ellen Lewis had named her last son Edward Cureton Willitts & this jumped out at me.  In 1816 John Dickin lived at Worthen Hall & by 1841 was living at Trawscoed House in Guilsfield.
Mary Dickin 1816/1872 who m James Lewis had a brother Charles Robert 1823/1846, a sister Sarah Maria 1825/1886 who m into the maternal side of my Roberts family in Guilsfield & then a stillborn in 1827. Once I found Edward Cureton Willitts on a tree from the US I contacted the owner who said her father was born a year before Mary Ellen died but was too young to remember her & they had nothing to go on other than what US censuses told them.   So it's definite that it was Mary Dickin who m James Lewis, NOT Mary Chester.

DCB I've learned a lot of history through following the Cureton's in the Indian Army, fascinating stuff.  The General Chas Rbt Cureton who died in Ramnagar, his wife was given a grace & favour apartment in Hampton Court when he died.
AFN, will do more as the day goes by. 
Thank you all again, Amberly
Roberts,Guilsfield area, Mont.    Beattie, Welshpool, Mont         Newill, Welshpool & Shrops.      Gwyther, London.                    Cureton, Shrops & London.       Whitfield, Shrops.                        Dickin, Shrops & Mont.               Barker, London.

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Re: Mary Ellen Lewis b April1842 in Guilsfield area.
« Reply #38 on: Sunday 26 February 23 22:08 GMT (UK) »
SANDRA have now had time to look at the passenger lists you sent & I'm pretty sure it's them with father James going ahead of the family.    Well done for finding them, it sure was a search!
Now they arrived in NY but where did they go after that I wonder & where do I start looking??  Mary Ellen didn't marry Morton H Willets until 1864 in Knox, Ohio. She had 20 years to live somewhere & I'm not really au fait with the US censuses so don't know where to start.  Any ideas anyone please??
Thanks, Sandra for your efforts.
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Re: Mary Ellen Lewis b April1842 in Guilsfield area.
« Reply #39 on: Monday 27 February 23 02:30 GMT (UK) »
You can search the census records on FamilySearch.

There is this one from 1850, I wonder if the places of birth are the wrong way around for Charles and Mary because the children have not been written down in order of age.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MF8N-Q6M

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Re: Mary Ellen Lewis b April1842 in Guilsfield area.
« Reply #40 on: Monday 27 February 23 03:16 GMT (UK) »
It certainly is difficult with such common names! I did see this 1880 census which I wondered about in Summit, Ohio. Couldn't find a marriage for Robert McGINN and Sarah LEWIS though, or a birth or further records for young Sarah LEWIS to either rule it in or out.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33SQ-GYBH-9MRZ?i=12&cc=1417683

Robert McGINN   50  Ireland
Sarah                     40  Wales
Mary A LEWIS       72  Wales (mother-in-law, wid)
Sarah                        8  Ohio  (niece)
Frederick JONES      40  Wales (boarder)

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Re: Mary Ellen Lewis b April1842 in Guilsfield area.
« Reply #41 on: Monday 27 February 23 14:15 GMT (UK) »
May just be a coincidence, but there is a census record for 1850 in Michigan which has the right names, together some right ages and birth places.

Mary, wife of James, has an age transcribed as 83, but the 8 is smudged and is actually 33.
Children, Mary and Sarah are the right age with different birth places, plus a son, Charles.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MF8N-Q69

in 1860, Mary has a different husband, Richard Lewis, with children, Mary and Charles, but no Sarah.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MW67-VHP

In 1870, Sarah and Charles are at home, but no Mary.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MHHY-8MY

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Re: Mary Ellen Lewis b April1842 in Guilsfield area.
« Reply #42 on: Monday 27 February 23 14:26 GMT (UK) »
That looks an interesting find, David. Have  you found any birth info for Charles?


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Re: Mary Ellen Lewis b April1842 in Guilsfield area.
« Reply #43 on: Monday 27 February 23 14:52 GMT (UK) »
Unfortunately, I can't find a birth, but there is a possible match in 1900
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MSMG-ZZX

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Re: Mary Ellen Lewis b April1842 in Guilsfield area.
« Reply #44 on: Monday 27 February 23 15:18 GMT (UK) »
Places of birth for self/father/mother for both of them match. The FS images are not easy to read on a very small laptop. I'll need to look at them  on my pay sites!

I'm busy today so can't do much looking.
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