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Re: Mary Ellen Lewis b April1842 in Guilsfield area.
« Reply #45 on: Monday 27 February 23 15:20 GMT (UK) »
DUNDEE & MADDYs52  thanks for all these.  I do think Dundee's 3 census are correct but sorry Maddys52 not yours.

I have to go out now but will investigate all further when I get back for lunch.

You guys are all great I'm now getting somewhere I believe with all your help.    I spent a couple of hours last night searching & found nothing, so well done to all of you.
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Re: Mary Ellen Lewis b April1842 in Guilsfield area.
« Reply #46 on: Monday 27 February 23 15:42 GMT (UK) »
I've found a marriage of a Charles Lewis and Etta  Laurence in Kalamazoo, Michigan, 5 June 1874 Charles recorded as Farmer. Residence - Howard City.
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Re: Mary Ellen Lewis b April1842 in Guilsfield area.
« Reply #47 on: Monday 27 February 23 17:03 GMT (UK) »
GADGET- thanks this looks good too.   He'd be 21 or so by 1874.   Will do more myself after I've had my lunch.    Amberly.
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Re: Mary Ellen Lewis b April1842 in Guilsfield area.
« Reply #48 on: Tuesday 28 February 23 09:21 GMT (UK) »
Some trees on Ancestry have the Lewis family of Kalamazoo. One has a photograph of Charles, but no information about his birth or ancestry. It also has photos of his wife and grandchildren

If you have access, this is the link: https://www.ancestry.co.uk/family-tree/tree/55050554/family?cfpid=13758217442

There is also a photo of the grave of his grandson, Raymond:-

https://images.findagrave.com/photos/2017/10/93257704_1484193682.jpg

If correct, Charles married Sarah Russ in 1872. In the record, he is shown as Lewis Charles of Kalamazoo, b 1848. However, unlike the census, it gives his birth place as St Lewis, Missouri.

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Re: Mary Ellen Lewis b April1842 in Guilsfield area.
« Reply #49 on: Tuesday 28 February 23 11:50 GMT (UK) »

in 1860, Mary has a different husband, Richard Lewis, with children, Mary and Charles, but no Sarah.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MW67-VHP


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The 1860 census was Schoolcraft, Kalamazoo, Michigan.
The 1870 census was Schoolcraft, Kalamazoo, Michigan.
The 1880 census was Schoolcraft, Kalamazoo, Michigan.

The trouble is Lewis can be a very common surname.  There was also an 1850 census showing Richard and Mary.

Brady, Kalamazoo, Michigan 1850 - all born England.

Richard Lewis 43 Mary Lewis 41
Richard Jones 25
Ellen Lewis   10
Francis Biddoes 30

In 1870, Sarah and Charles are at home, but no Mary.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MHHY-8MY


1880 census  Schoolcraft, Kalamazoo, Michigan.

Richard Lewis 74   Self (Head)
Mary Lewis   65   Wife

Richard Lewis death - 22 Jul 1883
Death Place Vicksburg, Kalamazoo, Michigan.

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Richard Lewis

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/25624933/richard-lewis

Mary Lewis  passed 24 May 1890  (aged 73 years)

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/25624930/mary-lewis


Death Certificate Richard (married) - 22 Jul 1883
Death Place   Vicksburg, Kalamazoo, Michigan - parents unknown

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-DH5W-LNM?i=402&cc=1452402&personaUrl=%2Fark%3A%2F61903%2F1%3A1%3AN3JR-M4H

death certificate Mary Lewis (widow) :-  Father's Name   Mr. Hotchkiss
and Mother's Name   Mrs. Hotchkiss

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:N3FR-R5H

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-DHQN-DR?i=1043&cc=1452402&personaUrl=%2Fark%3A%2F61903%2F1%3A1%3AN3FR-R5H

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Re: Mary Ellen Lewis b April1842 in Guilsfield area.
« Reply #50 on: Tuesday 28 February 23 14:06 GMT (UK) »
SANDRA Mary Lewis death in 1890 in Kalamazoo showed her parents incorrectly as Hotchkiss & her birth as 1814. 
DCB & SANDRA I'm not yet convinced she married a Richard Lewis as
a] I haven't yet found James' death,
b] also haven't found a marriage of Mary to Richard,
c] it's a little odd that she married another Lewis, although not impossible considering the # of Lewis' living around that area!
No time for more at the mo but will get back to this later today.
Thanks again guys,   Amberly
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Re: Mary Ellen Lewis b April1842 in Guilsfield area.
« Reply #51 on: Tuesday 28 February 23 14:28 GMT (UK) »
I think Sandra is correct. There is a marriage of Richard Lewis to Mary Hotchkiss on 10th December 1838 in Shrewsbury, Shropshire.

There are in Condover, Shropshire, in 1841, with the same ages as the 1860-70 censuses.

I can't see them in 1851, so they may have left England before the census.

Either the 1850 census is a different family or the name of Mary's husband is an error.

Sorry for any of my errors.

David

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Re: Mary Ellen Lewis b April1842 in Guilsfield area.
« Reply #52 on: Tuesday 28 February 23 14:43 GMT (UK) »
Hi David,

No apologises needed, all possibilities have to be investigated.

It is difficult to find birth records, marriages and deaths for that time frame.
Of course the American Civil War destroyed records in some States.

This may be a mystery that is not solved. So back to the drawing boards.

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Re: Mary Ellen Lewis b April1842 in Guilsfield area.
« Reply #53 on: Tuesday 28 February 23 15:04 GMT (UK) »
SANDRA Mary Lewis death in 1890 in Kalamazoo showed her parents incorrectly as Hotchkiss & her birth as 1814. 


Yes, that's what I was pointing out to you so that people didn't waste there time going along that line.
As I have said, birth, marriage and death records are sometimes few and far between in that time frame.  We can't be exactly sure where they went in the USA, except that Mary ended up in Ohio.
I have tried searching page by page on census in Knox and Clinton Ohio but nothing positive so far.


Try to locate that obituary that was mentioned earlier.  If Mary knew who her parents were and where they came from, she could have passed that information to her family. Clutching at straws but worth looking into.

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