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RC marriage in 1930s Ireland, divorce in England ? Possible ?
« on: Monday 27 February 23 13:52 GMT (UK) »
I've just read that divorce only became possible in Ireland in 1995 ( https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fifteenth_Amendment_of_the_Constitution_of_Ireland ).

In the UK the number of divorces appears to have been rapidly increasing through the 1940s ( https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Divorce_in_England_and_Wales ).

So was it possible that a couple who had married in Ireland in the 30s got divorced in the UK in the 1940s ?
Most roots researched back to the early/mid 1800s. Years noted as 'pre' refer to my direct ancestors, although I'm interested in any relatives:
Mitchelstown, Co.Cork: CORBETT (pre1935), SWEENEY  (pre1935), CUSACK? (pre1894), KEYS? (pre1894)
Mallow, Co.Cork: BROWNE (1895-1935)
Caher, Co.Tipp: BROWNE (pre1895), PURTELL(pre1895)
Cashel, Co.Tipp: FANNING (pre1886)
Llanelly, Carms: GRIFFITHS (pre1934), REYNOLDS (pre1901), WILLIAMS (pre1934)
Ton Pentre, Glams: LEWIS (pre1901)

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Re: RC marriage in 1930s Ireland, divorce in England ? Possible ?
« Reply #1 on: Monday 27 February 23 14:24 GMT (UK) »
The main reason for the increase in divorce in the UK in the 1940s is WW2.

Many marriage did not withstand the separation, not to mention the infidelity
Of one or other of the couple. My own in-laws were a case in point.
CHOULES All ,  COKER Harwich Essex & Rochester Kent 
COLE Gt. Oakley, & Lt. Oakley, Essex.
DUNCAN Kent
EVERITT Colchester,  Dovercourt & Harwich Essex
GULLIVER/GULLOFER Fifehead Magdalen Dorset
HORSCROFT Kent.
KING Sturminster Newton, Dorset. MONK Odiham Ham.
SCOTT Wrabness, Essex
WILKINS Stour Provost, Dorset.
WICKHAM All in North Essex.
WICKHAM Medway Towns, Kent from 1880
WICKHAM, Ipswich, Suffolk.

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Re: RC marriage in 1930s Ireland, divorce in England ? Possible ?
« Reply #2 on: Monday 27 February 23 18:10 GMT (UK) »


So was it possible that a couple who had married in Ireland in the 30s got divorced in the UK in the 1940s ?

Yes but with the proviso that the divorce would effectively not be recognised in the Republic of Ireland. So they couldn’t re-marry there. Really only of use to someone living outside Ireland and intending to continue doing so.
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Re: RC marriage in 1930s Ireland, divorce in England ? Possible ?
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 28 February 23 01:43 GMT (UK) »
Thanks Elwyn, that would fit. We think that she remarried in London and lived the rest of her life there.

I read somewhere that divorce records weren't kept for very long - is that correct ?
Most roots researched back to the early/mid 1800s. Years noted as 'pre' refer to my direct ancestors, although I'm interested in any relatives:
Mitchelstown, Co.Cork: CORBETT (pre1935), SWEENEY  (pre1935), CUSACK? (pre1894), KEYS? (pre1894)
Mallow, Co.Cork: BROWNE (1895-1935)
Caher, Co.Tipp: BROWNE (pre1895), PURTELL(pre1895)
Cashel, Co.Tipp: FANNING (pre1886)
Llanelly, Carms: GRIFFITHS (pre1934), REYNOLDS (pre1901), WILLIAMS (pre1934)
Ton Pentre, Glams: LEWIS (pre1901)


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Re: RC marriage in 1930s Ireland, divorce in England ? Possible ?
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 28 February 23 11:19 GMT (UK) »


I read somewhere that divorce records weren't kept for very long - is that correct ?

I don’t know the answer to that. (But hopefully someone else will.).
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Re: RC marriage in 1930s Ireland, divorce in England ? Possible ?
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 28 February 23 11:22 GMT (UK) »
Would her marital status be mentioned on her new marriage certificate?
It might be worth checking.
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Re: RC marriage in 1930s Ireland, divorce in England ? Possible ?
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 28 February 23 11:58 GMT (UK) »
If someone is divorced it should say on new marriage, divorced from and the ex spouse’s name.

That is what appears on the ones I have.
CHOULES All ,  COKER Harwich Essex & Rochester Kent 
COLE Gt. Oakley, & Lt. Oakley, Essex.
DUNCAN Kent
EVERITT Colchester,  Dovercourt & Harwich Essex
GULLIVER/GULLOFER Fifehead Magdalen Dorset
HORSCROFT Kent.
KING Sturminster Newton, Dorset. MONK Odiham Ham.
SCOTT Wrabness, Essex
WILKINS Stour Provost, Dorset.
WICKHAM All in North Essex.
WICKHAM Medway Towns, Kent from 1880
WICKHAM, Ipswich, Suffolk.

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Re: RC marriage in 1930s Ireland, divorce in England ? Possible ?
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 28 February 23 12:04 GMT (UK) »
Thst's good to know. I guess it's time to take a gamble and order that possible remarriage certificate.
Most roots researched back to the early/mid 1800s. Years noted as 'pre' refer to my direct ancestors, although I'm interested in any relatives:
Mitchelstown, Co.Cork: CORBETT (pre1935), SWEENEY  (pre1935), CUSACK? (pre1894), KEYS? (pre1894)
Mallow, Co.Cork: BROWNE (1895-1935)
Caher, Co.Tipp: BROWNE (pre1895), PURTELL(pre1895)
Cashel, Co.Tipp: FANNING (pre1886)
Llanelly, Carms: GRIFFITHS (pre1934), REYNOLDS (pre1901), WILLIAMS (pre1934)
Ton Pentre, Glams: LEWIS (pre1901)

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Re: RC marriage in 1930s Ireland, divorce in England ? Possible ?
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 28 February 23 12:10 GMT (UK) »
Perhaps the only way to find out.
Were there any children born in the later marriage? You could look for mother’s maiden name.
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