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Offline Dalet

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POYSER brothers convicts to Tasmania.
« on: Tuesday 28 February 23 07:58 GMT (UK) »
Hi All,

I am looking for information on what might have happened to these two fellows after they received their Ticket of Leave.

Thomas and  William Poyser were sent to VDL (Tasmania) in 1824 aboard the Phoenix. By 1840 they had received their ticket of leave and in 1841 Thomas married Mary Ann Thomas in Hobart.

After that I can find no trace of them to complicate things William Poyser also used the alias William Waddingham.

Any help tracking down these 2 great great great uncles appreciated.

Thanks Dale
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Re: POYSER brothers convicts to Tasmania.
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 28 February 23 09:31 GMT (UK) »
According to this record his alias was "William Waddington". Might be worth checking under that name.

https://stors.tas.gov.au/NI/1442527


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Re: POYSER brothers convicts to Tasmania.
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 28 February 23 09:38 GMT (UK) »
I would recommend looking for mention of them in the newspapers.
For example, here is William Poyser mentioned in a Government Notice, as appointed to Keeper of the Pound in New Norfolk. march 1840

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/8747555?searchTerm=“William%20poyser”

And a later mention in 1841.
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/2957160?searchTerm=Poyser%20AND%20“River%20Plenty%7D

William received an Absolute pardon in 1842
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/36250848?searchTerm=Poyser


Thomas received a free pardon in 1842.
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/2954803?searchTerm=Poyser
And an absolute pardon in 1843.
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/2952133?searchTerm=Poyser
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Re: POYSER brothers convicts to Tasmania.
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 28 February 23 09:59 GMT (UK) »
They both received a conditional pardon in 1836 and as Neale1961 has mentioned their absolute pardons were in 1841 for William and 1842 for Thomas.  That meant that they could go wherever they wanted including returning to England.

https://stors.tas.gov.au/CON31-1-34

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Re: POYSER brothers convicts to Tasmania.
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 28 February 23 10:28 GMT (UK) »
Per newspaper reports of the court hearings and trial, Thomas Poyser (alias Murphy) was 36 in 1823. He had a wife Anne and his home was in Chingford, Essex. Anne had a brother Henry Poyser, a wheelwright. William Poyser alias Waddington was aged 50.
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Re: POYSER brothers convicts to Tasmania.
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 28 February 23 10:36 GMT (UK) »
The newspaper reports may have got a bit garbled about the Poyser relationships. Per the censuses, Henry Poyser the wheelwright had a wife Ann(e). He was born in Bloore, Staffordshire circa 1790/1. Ann(e) was born in Derbyshire 1794/5. Perhaps these are your ancestors?
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Re: POYSER brothers convicts to Tasmania.
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 01 March 23 07:54 GMT (UK) »
Thank you for those replies.

Some online trees had William and Thomas dying back in England.
I had ruled that out as a possibility however with the information provided I was a bit hasty doing so.

Henry and Ann Poyser are my ancestors.

Regards Dale

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Marchment Gale - Wiltshire
MacLeod MacSwain- Raasay, Scotland
Gazzard Partridge - Essex
Grimmett Harris - Oxfordshire
Brien - London
Poyser - Staffordshire
Johns Morris - Glamorgan, Wales

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Re: POYSER brothers convicts to Tasmania.
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 01 March 23 08:57 GMT (UK) »
Would anyone know if there were any Shipping records for passengers travelling back to England?

Thanks, Dale
Watts Westcott Irwin Gammon - Devon
Marchment Gale - Wiltshire
MacLeod MacSwain- Raasay, Scotland
Gazzard Partridge - Essex
Grimmett Harris - Oxfordshire
Brien - London
Poyser - Staffordshire
Johns Morris - Glamorgan, Wales