Morris/Edmunds family in Hereford

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Hello
I am searching the above family for more information.
The parents are Susan Morris and Samuel Edmunds/Edmunds. I have census for 1841 to 1881.
Both parents were born around 1817/1818 and some of the family lived at some time in Turks alley, green street or  St Owen Street. Children seem to have been born between 1839 and 1863 which seems to be a long period of time. I am wondering if I may have got two families mixed up. Mother’s maiden name is Morris.

In 1871 census, son Richard Valentine is born in 1863  (mothers maiden name Morris). His brother Thomas born in 1861 appears to have mothers maiden name as Williams according to GRO. There is another Thomas born in 1845 with mother’s maiden name as Morris. He is on the1851 census.

(Ann) Elizabeth Edmunds I believe is born in 1849 according to GRO. In 1881 Elizabeth Edmunds is head of house and has children. No mention of a husband. My interest is in her son Harry born 1878 who later in life appears to have married a Lily Harford and lived in Gloucester.

Elizabeth’s daughter Susan appears to have the surname Powell in her name and wondered if anyone could find out any definite information about Elizabeth Edmunds/Edmonds.

In 1851 Susan’s brother James is living with them. He is a shoemaker born in 1823

Thanks for any help in confirming if same family, the name Powell, or anything else

Gill

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There is this possible marriage

Marriages Jun Q 1906   same page with others
Edmunds    Elizabeth        Hereford    6a   1105    
Powell    Joseph        Hereford    6a   1105    

1911 has Joseph Powell age 56 bricklayer, and Elizabeth age 60 at 1 Weavers Court, St Owens Street, Hereford.

Ties in with details given on Susan Helen Edmonds Powell marriage cert (online)

Susan Helen Edmonds Powell
Marriage Age:   23
Record Type:   Marriage
Birth Date:   1886
Marriage Date:   10 Apr 1909
Marriage Place:   Cardiff St Andrew, Glamorganshire, Wales
Father:   Joseph Powell, bricklayer
Spouse:   William John Williams

Possible death

POWELL, ANN  ELIZABETH     age 71 
GRO Reference: 1921  S Quarter in HEREFORD  Volume 06A  Page 498

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1921 free index. View record for details.

Ann Elizabeth Powell born 1849, Hereford, at St Peter, Herefordshire

Ann Elizabeth, Ada Morris, Harry and 1 other are on this record

Possible death for Joseph Powell - Deaths Mar Q 1915   
Powell    Joseph    age 62    Hereford    6a   857    

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Looks likely the 1921 is them. As above.

Harry Edmonds born 1876, Herefordshire with Ann Elizabeth Powell at St Peter, Hereford

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Children of Samuel and Susan Edmonds/Edmunds- all registered Hereford and Dore

Mary Ann 1838
Samuel 1842 died 1843
Susan Maria 1844
Thomas 1846
Emily 1848
Ann Elizabeth 1849
Samuel 1851
Julia 1856 died 1857
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In 1861 they have a James 6 and Charles H 2 listed as children but no corresponding registration
(that I have found)
There is a James Edmonds 1855 with no mother's maiden name.
Charles H Powell  (not Edmonds) with mmn Morris  - which would be her mothers maiden name
and not the mothers name of Edmonds.

They appear to be the sons of daughter Mary Ann.

1871 census Mary Ann 36 single is living next door to Samuel and Susan with her daughter Alice
registered as Alice Edmonds 1863 with no mmn.- illegitimate
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**Richard Valentine Edmonds 1863 was baptized as Valentine 12 October 1863 as a son of Samuel and Susan

[mulberryhouse40]

Thank you everyone. Some of this I have and some I don’t so hopefully this will help untangle the family