Likelihood of grandfatherhood.

[brigidmac]

Posted at same time as Ruskie

Does X Have any DNA links to the mother's family of Y W +brothers
Just to rule out that their father wasnt the "culprit"
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Do they all have the same mother  ?

[brigidmac]

Can I also ask what year X s mother was born
And where 

I expect you have the birth certificate
But sometimes there is an extra clue in the baptism.

Also the birth mother or the parish may have taken the putative father to court for maintenance payments.

Other avenues to explore .

[1931census]

Posted at same time as Ruskie

Does X Have any DNA links to the mother's family of Y W +brothers
Just to rule out that their father wasnt the "culprit"
"
Do they all have the same mother  ?

Hello. X doesn't seem to have any maternal family links HOWEVER i have struggled to trace the maternal family due to Polish records being spotty at best so I may be missing something.

The brothers' father would have been 57 at the time, so I suppose he is a possibility.

They all had the same mother. There were ten children in total - 8 sons, 2 daughters. 6 were of the appropriate age to be X's grandfather.

[1931census]

Can I also ask what year X s mother was born
And where 

I expect you have the birth certificate
But sometimes there is an extra clue in the baptism.

Also the birth mother or the parish may have taken the putative father to court for maintenance payments.

Other avenues to explore .

X's mother was born in 1919. I do have the birth certificate. I haven't been able to find a baptism or any court records. Do you know where I would look for those?

[1931census]

It is difficult because cousins can share similar  Amounts to half siblings
I'm comparing with my mother's known half cousins on both sides and our 3 generations

There are Variations to mums paternal halfciR
Mt generation Match between 48-75cm but her grandson matches by116cm

I think you have to look at the segment amount too
 Mums maternal half C is a 336cm match 9seg
He matches me and my cousin exactly 192cm
7 segs +14segs
+Next generation 54cm 3segs

Your examples to W seem higher thru the generations
Isn't he more likely to be the grandfather

There are other possibilities depending on the ages of the 5 brothers could the youngest have been a son brought up by the paternal grandparents . Can you absolutely rule out that the birth father is not the generation above ie the 5 boys father that would explain the high matches to younger generation



I'm afraid that once you've narrowed it down to brothers you can't tell difference between connections to their nephews or sons to who could be X s half uncle or father .or

Only clues from location . Occupation. Opportunity and possibly  from name of the baby ..

As far as I know, they were all living relatively near to the right place. The baby's name had no family connections. Y was a tailor, W was a hairdresser. The other brothers had similar jobs. And it's true I cannot confirm that Y and W's father was not the father, though knowing what X's grandmother was like, it seems less likely to me.

I don't know about W being the father though, as although it is true X and her family matched quite closely with Joe, one of his grandsons, they matched far less closely with Rae and Lou (grandson and great-grandson respectively), with X's granddaughter not even matching with Lou at all.

[brigidmac]

Have messaged you .

Court records
May be in local record office
I paid a professional to do that search because affiliation orders are not easy to find .

What area was the birth .did the mother go away or stay in locality where she lived ?

Did she work ?