Thomas and Family

[Shrop63]

The age is rather out - Can't see another one either

Kay

1851 would mean him being born in 1797 and 1861 born in 1795. The Thomas i,m after was b1794, no idea what happened to him

[Kay99]

He may have returned to Wales after working in Yorkshire?    His son Robert Frederick who lived with his parents died in 1866 in Eston Yorkshire when according to Anc trees he was still living with his parents

Kay

[Mabel Bagshawe]

John Cranage who is with them in 1861 is indexed on Ancestry as son in law, but I think the image says "sec cousin"

GRO confirms his mother's maiden name is Hazledine, which make him  John's H's  grandson (as per 1851), through his daughter Isabella who married George Cranage

Now to work out how  John H is related to the Ellises 

[Shrop63]

Thanks guys can anyone see a marriage of John Hazledine and Elizabeth?

[Cas (stallc)]

Interesting marriage.  Maybe too young going by census age, but if correct Elizabeth would possibly be sister to Mary Ellis nee Aston?

Wales, Marriage Bonds, 1650-1900 (by Licence)
Llandaff, Glamorgan, Wales
Ref Llandaff A 105/16

John Hazeldine - Elizabeth Aston, spinster
Marriage 7 August 1809 Merthyr Tydfil
Marriage bond states he is a Yeoman, both living Merthyr Tydfil

In reply #2 is she the Elizabeth Hazeldine witness to the marriage? If so was married before 1818. Census ages could be out?

On Anc* by Licence, looks like the marriage

Name:   Elizabeth Astons
Record Type:   Marriage Banns
Marriage Banns Date:   8 Aug 1809
Marriage Banns Place:   Merthyr Tydfil, Glamorganshire, Wales
Marriage Date:   1809
Residence Place:   both of This Parish
Spouse:   John Hazeld
Witness Sarah Smith & James Aston
Page number:   197

Cas

[Mabel Bagshawe]

Marriage entry on Freereg doesn;t help - https://www.freereg.org.uk/search_records/5817dc97e93790eb7fb3f063/elizabeth-aston-john-hazeld-marriage-glamorgan-merthyr-tydfil-1809-08-08?locale=en

And they've only partially transcribed the surname

I was thinking the connection would be on John's side as he;s from Wellington, whilst his wife is from Merthyr according to 1851

[Mabel Bagshawe]

With the truncated surname I;ve foud the marriage entry on Ancestry. Married by licence on 8 August 1809

Image does say Hazeld. Both of this parish. Witnesses Sarah Smith and James Aston(s). All mark their mark except Elizabeth. The main register has her surname as Aston but she appears to sign it Astons, and the name written by James' mark could also be Astons

[Mabel Bagshawe]

Elizabeth Astons
Baptism     1 Sep 1792, privately bpatised Penydarren.
Received into the church 26 Dec 1792
Father:     Samuel
Mother:    Rachel

The couple have a number of children baptised from 1786 onwards, but no Mary (added: including a James)

[Mabel Bagshawe]

Mary Astons
Baptism    6 Nov 1793, privately at Penydarren, Received in church 25 December 1793
Father:    John
Mother:    Hannah