Duncan Taylour b.abt.1766 and Annabella Campbell

[Karytay]

I am finding it hard to find marriage, death and birth info for Duncan Taylour/Taylor and Annabella Campbell.
What I know is he married Annabella Campbell b. abt. 1770 before 1792 in Skipness.
For their first child was born in 1792.
Duncan occupation was master shoemaker.
Their children are Efrick/ Euphemia b. abt. 1792 Skipness
Archibald b.1795 d. 1857 Calfin, Skipness d. 1857 Saltcoats, Ayrshire
John b. 1797 Skipness d. 1876 Saltcoats, Ayrshire
Donald b. 1799 Skipness
Duncan b. 1799 Skipness
Catherine b. 1801 Skipness
Daniel b. 1802 Skipness d.1870 Troon
Gilbert b. 1803 Skipness d. 1876 Glasgow
Mary b. 1806 Skipness
Robert b. 1809 Skipness
Annabela b. 1812 Skipness
Ann b. 1815 Skipness

Thanks

[ColC]

I cannot find a marriage but it is possible that it has not survived etc.
There are 6 possible baptisms for Duncan in Argyll, such as the one below and 1 in Bute father Archibald, which seems unlikely.

TAYLOR   DUNCAN   JOHN TAYLOR/ANABELL MORISON   26/12/1770   CAMPBELTOWN

TAYLOR   DUNCAN   ARCHIBALD TAYLOR/KATHARINE THOMSON   12/04/1763   ROTHESAY

This is the only baptism for Annabella in the County.

CAMPBELL   ANNABELLA   DONALD CAMPBELL   29/07/1774   SOUTHEND

The only other on SP in Scotland seems unlikely?

CAMPBELL   ANNABELLA   JOHN CAMPBELL MARGARET CARMICHAEL    28/08/1776   GREENOCK NEW OR MIDDLE

Colin

[Forfarian]

Duncan named his first son Archibald and his second daughter Catherine.

And if you travel by sea, Skipness is very close to Bute, albeit Rothesay is on the other side of Bute from Skipness.

I would have thought that that baptism in Rothesay in 1763 is quite a good candidate.

[ColC]

That would make sense, especially if this was Annabella, maybe they never married, maybe they ran away to Skipness, Annabella would be 16 in 1792?

CAMPBELL   ANNABELLA   JOHN CAMPBELL MARGARET CARMICHAEL    28/08/1776   GREENOCK NEW OR MIDDLE.

Colin

[Forfarian]

Perhaps, but I see that Duncan and Annabella didn't name a daughter Margaret.

Efrick Taylour, parents Duncan and Annaple, was baptised on 31 May 1792. So she would have been conceived at latest at the end of August 1791, just about when the Annabella Campbell born in Greenock turned 15. It's not impossible, but not likely, that she was married at 14.

She might just as well be the Annabella Campbell who married Alexander Jamieson in Paisley in 1901.

Do the Saddell and Skipness baptisms give the names of witnesses to baptisms? If so it would be worth looking at them to see if the witnesses give any clues to the parents of Duncan Taylor and/or Annabella Campbell.

[Karytay]

Thanks Colin and Forfarian.
Archibald Taylor and Katharine sound more feasible. And these names carry on down through the generations.
 
John Campbell and Margaret could be right, except the first child/ daughter was named Efrick/ Euphemia or some other version of the name. One would think this would be the name of the mother.

So it looks like I will have to except the fact that I will not be able to go farther back.

Thanks again.

[Karytay]

 

[Forfarian]

There's a small chance that the baptism records might contain something useful.

I had a quick look for Kirk Session records. The ones for Saddell don't seem to have survived, but there are some records of Skipness quoad sacra*. They are mostly accounts, recording how much money was collected each Sabbath and the names of the poor of the parish who received money, but there is a mention of Duncan Taylor in the sederunt on 21 December 1784, followed by his signature 'Dun Taylor' at the foot of the page. Is this your Duncan, or possibly his father, I wonder?

*quoad sacra is Latin and means something like 'relating to sacred matters'. Parishes were not used only as religious units, but also for civil purposes quoad civilia.

Sometimes there might be a significant population in a place in the parish too far from the parish kirk for most people to attend regularly, and the Church might then decide to disjoin part of the parish and erect it into a parish quoad sacra (sometimes abbreviated to q.s.) The religious division did not affect any civil use being made of the parish, which remained undivided quoad civilia.

Skipness is about 20 miles from Saddell, but the parish kirks were at Claonaig and Carradale, which are only about 13 miles apart. Still too far for all but the most devout parishioners to walk both ways on a winter Sunday, so it's not surprising that there was a quoad sacra division.

You can read a contemporary (1794) report about the parish from the Old Statistical Accounts at https://stataccscot.edina.ac.uk/static/statacc/dist/parish/Argyle/Saddell%20and%20Skipness

[ColC]

I wonder if Duncan was married before, it looks a little odd. Sadly no death records Skipness pre 1855.

DUNCAN TAYLOR   MARRIED    MARY GRAHAM   12/09/1783   BOWMORE OR KILARROW

TAYLOUR   JEAN   DUNCAN TAYLOUR/MARY TAYLOUR    30/01/1790   SADDELL AND SKIPNESS
TAYLOUR   MARY DUNCAN TAYLOUR/MARY TAYLOUR   25/09/1785   SADDELL AND SKIPNESS

Colin